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DOD destroying brass?
#1
Since I can never find posts relating to what I want to post here I'll ask first;
Is there already a discussion about the Department of Defense destroying once fired brass rather than sell it to Georgia Arms as they have done in the past?

Thanks.

This is the text of which I speak:




Brass Shell Casings - You Gotta Read this one to believe it!!!



Be sure you are setting down when you read this one!



Georgia Arms is the 5th largest retailer of .223 ammo in America. They sell 9mm, .45, .223 ammunition. They normally buy spent brass from the U.S. Department of Defense. Spent brass is “one time used” shell cases used by our Military for training purposes.

They buy the brass, recondition it, and then reload the brass for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Clubs, Gun Shops, and stores like Wal-Mart. They normally buy 30,000 lbs. of spent brass at a time.

This week the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and informed him that from now on the DoD will be destroying the spent brass, shredding it. It will no longer be available to the ammo makers, unless they buy it in a scrap shredded condition (which they have no use for).

The shredded brass is now going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap metal, after the DoD pays for it to be shredded. The DoD is selling the brass to China for less money than the ammo makers have been paying, plus the DoD has to pay to have the brass shredded and do the accounting paperwork.

This sure helps the economy now doesn’t it? Sell cheaper to China, and do not sell at all to a proven U.S. business. Any hidden agenda working here? Obama going after the Firearms Industry and our ammunition!!

The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week. The DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell cases he had already bought!

The brass has no value to the ammo maker if it is destroyed/shredded/melted.



The ammo manufacturer only uses the empty brass cases to reload different calibers, mainly .223 bullets.

The owner of Georgia Arms says that he will have to lay off at least half of his 60 workers within 2 to 3 months if the DoD will no longer sell spent brass cases to the industry. Georgia Arms has 2 to 3 months of inventory to use; by summer they’re out.

If the Reloading Industry has to purchase new manufacture brass cases, then the cost of ammunition will double or even triple, plus Obama wants to add a 500% tax on each shell.

You can read the information and see the DoD letter to Georgia Arms here:



http://www.theshootist.net/2009/03/dod-e...itary.html

If you’re not outraged at what this administration is doing you should be! Be Afraid! Be Very, Very Afraid! Get involved! It’s Your Freedom and Our Country They’re Stealing! If You Fail to Act Now, there may not be a Free United States tomorrow!

I implore you to get involved and forward this to as many people as you can. Contact your legislators and put them on notice. We’re fed up with what’s going on in the name of stimulating our economy!

FWIW, this appears to be old "news" dated 2009, I just wanted to check with the Pa2a folks to see if it's true but I couldn't find anything here by searching.
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#2
I don't think it's been posted here, but I remember reading that before.
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#3
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/casings.asp

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-...as-revised

http://www.ncgunowners.com/forum/showthr...?tid=28582

These may help, although I never expect .gov to let us know what's really going on. About anything.
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#4
That was over a year ago and they never actually destroyed any. They were going to change the rules to have it destroyed but companies got all over their congress critters and the rule change was stopped.
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#5
They didn't change the rules for brass specifically. They changed the rules for the entire class of surplus that includes the brass. They exempted it after the shooting public raised holy hell about it.
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#6
Saw this one a couple months ago.

http://www.examiner.com/article/fort-dru...y-and-more

Quote:A report received yesterday by Gun Rights Examiner indicates at least one military installation is still destroying expended ammunition brass, despite a furor raised in the gun community a few years back that resulted in two senators intervening to stop the practice and allow for its resale for reloading. The Dec. 2012 Integrated Solid Waste Management Plan for Fort Drum, N.Y., marked “Revision 1,” describes its policy for brass and expended munitions as part of its installation recycling program, which includes rendering expended ammunition brass unsuitable for anything but scrap.

“Brass from expended ammunition/munitions is recycled,” the report advises. “Expended munitions must be free of any explosive hazard or residue and be crushed, shredded or otherwise destroyed prior to public sale.

“At Fort Drum, brass from expended ammunition is processed through a brass deformer machine located at the transfer station,” the description continues. “The deformed brass is purchased by a scrap metal vendor who reports the weighed amount to the QRP [Qualified Recycling Program] Manager. The proceeds from the sale of the scrap metal are deposited into the designated QRP account.”

This is a reversal of an understanding given to Senators Max Baucus and Jon Tester after they wrote a letter expressing legal concerns to the Defense Logistics Agency in 2010.
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