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does any one know this???
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i got stoped before and used a video cam to record them and a cop told me he can take it as evidence for wire taping i was like wtf can they do that in pa???????
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From what I believe you can audio and video record LEO's as long as you inform them that you are. Ill have to do some research but that sounds like BS to me. I know some states you can't though.
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crazydazy86;10706 Wrote:i got stoped before and used a video cam to record them and a cop told me he can take it as evidence for wire taping i was like wtf can they do that in pa???????

It's best to know before trying.

From what I have read and kind of understand is that leo have no expectation of privacy while on duty, so there fore its not a "wiretapping" or invasion of privacy deal.

How you going about defending your right to video/audio record leo i'm not familiar with and still trying to learn.

Keep in mind i am not a lawyer and this is an uneducated opinion.
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LEOs have no right to privacy while in the scope of the job as an officer of the peace.

Telling you that, is leaving himself open.

No duty to tell them anything, record away.

Found an ACLU link that mentions it.

http://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclusett...erarre.htm
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Connal;10714 Wrote:LEOs have no right to privacy while in the scope of the job as an officer of the peace.

Telling you that, is leaving himself open.

No duty to tell them anything, record away.

Found an ACLU link that mentions it.

http://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclusett...erarre.htm

This is how I understand it, too. Because police are "puiblic servants", everything they do while on duty is in the public eye and so the officer has no reasonable expectation of privacy. Therefore, the officer should not expect what he says and does to be protected from being recorded.
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crazydazy86;10706 Wrote:i got stoped before and used a video cam to record them and a cop told me he can take it as evidence for wire taping i was like wtf can they do that in pa???????

I am not an attorney.

I do practice law in a manner know as "Pro Se" and you are encouraged to do likewise.

If you elect to follow my lead and practice in a pro se manner understand you may NOT practice criminal law but the practice of what is known as "CIVIL LAW" is wide open to you.

There is an excellent reference here regarding the ALCU and applicable case law, a civil action, yet no mention was made of filing an action against the policeman/men as an individual(s) who illegally detain and/or arrest you - for any reason, as they have violated one or more of your constitutional rights - for which there are severe penalities (mostly dollar wise) for the individual(s) in law enforcement who are/were involved. The "trick" here is not to sue the state (the 11th amendment forbids that) but using what is known as "the stripping doctrine" from Ex Parti Young, as a pro se plaintiff you can go after the individuals in court on an individual basis and you can do this rather easilyl. If you are angry enough, if you can operate a computer - you can do this - and I encourage you to do so. I offer this as arguing with an arrogant cop is a waste of your time and he/she will learn essentially nothing from the encounter with you but if you compel the individual(s) to appear in a court of competent jurisdiction to answer for their actions - then the learning process on their part may really begin and it will not be forgotten for a very long time - if ever.

Questions? Let me know - anytime.

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Connal;10714 Wrote:LEOs have no right to privacy while in the scope of the job as an officer of the peace.

Telling you that, is leaving himself open.

No duty to tell them anything, record away.

Found an ACLU link that mentions it.

http://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclusett...erarre.htm

Also how I understand it and I believe I recall seeing several court cases ruling the same on poofa.
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csmith;30650 Wrote:
Connal;10714 Wrote:LEOs have no right to privacy while in the scope of the job as an officer of the peace.

Telling you that, is leaving himself open.

No duty to tell them anything, record away.

Found an ACLU link that mentions it.

http://www.aclupa.org/pressroom/aclusett...erarre.htm

Also how I understand it and I believe I recall seeing several court cases ruling the same on poofa.

Yep. The way I understand this, and officer - while acting as an officer (i.e. "on duty") - he is a public official and so has no expectation of privacy. Most cops I know either don't know this or try to get around it, but this my understanding of the legality of recording a cop.
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A cop can "tell" you anything. He can tell you that the sky is purple. IANAL but people record police encounters with impunity all the time. If he were to charge you with wiretapping, you'd have to defend yourself, but my guess is that charges would be dropped before it went very far.

As others have said, he is a public servant and is in a public place. There is no assumption/expectation of privacy. Also, he can record you. Can you not record too? Did you demand his dash cam be turned off?

One aspect to mention is that if you come upon a scene that is being investigated and video record it, you can told to move back to a safe distance.
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AndrewG23;10708 Wrote:From what I believe you can audio and video record LEO's as long as you inform them that you are. Ill have to do some research but that sounds like BS to me. I know some states you can't though.
when we set up audio recording along with video, our customers must have it clearly marked at the entrance that there is audio recordings being made.
Pa is a 2 party state and you must inform the other party/parties
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