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DOJ, OBAMA PURCHASING ILLINOIS PRISON FOR GITMO INMATE TRANSFER
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News is breaking that the Obama administration is circumventing Congress and purchasing a prison facility in Illinois in which to house detainees once Gitmo is shut down.

The facility, Thomson Prison, is being purchased for "at least $165 million" and Rep. Peter King (R-NY), Chairman of House Committee on Homeland Security, believes the intention to house Gitmo inmates there is a foregone conclusion.


Reps. Hal Rogers (R-KY) and Frank Wolf (R-VA) have both been vehement and outspoken in their opposition to this move by the Obama administration.

Wolf , who is Chairman of the House Commerce-Justice-Science Appropriations Committee, has already said "no" to the funding request and blasted Attorney General Eric Holder for urging Obama to transfer and release terrorist detainees in the past.

Yet the Obama administration marches on, determined to purchase the facility.

Said Rep. King:

After [the show of] widespread and bipartisan opposition to President Obama's outrageous and dangerous plan to close the ultra-secure detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and import terrorists to the U.S. homeland for trial in civilian courts in New York City and elsewhere, I thought this issue was settled.

Apparently not.


In addition to congressional opposition, the 9/11 Families for a Safe & Strong America have opposed the prison purchase.

A letter dated July 27, 2007, signed by more than 100 family members stated:
9/11 families believe this purchase is a back door effort to circumvent Congress and the will of the American people.

Though Senator Dick Durbin and Attorney General Eric Holder have denied that the prison would be retrofitted to receive Guantanamo detainees, this would not be the first time the Department of Justice defied Congress in an effort to bring terrorists inside the Homeland.

Today, they issued another statement about the purchase:
Recent news that the terrorist attack on the American consulate in Benghazi was led by a former Guantanamo detainee has underscored the dangerous profile of current detainees.

They continue to pose a serious national security threat to the U.S., and should not be viewed as political pawns which can be moved from a safe, secure off-shore military installation to the heart of America in order to satisfy a small, left-wing political constituency.

This is the same constituency that agitated for the release of prior detainees who have returned to the battlefield and who engage in anti-U.S. propaganda and terrorist recruiting.

Further opposition to the funding of the prison purchase came from Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), Wolf’s Senate counterpart on the CJS Subcommittee; Sens. Richard Shelby (R-AL), Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), Roger Wicker (R-MS), Thad Cochran (R-MS); Rep. Charlie Bass (R-NH).

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/...e-Transfer

or could this be for NDAA prisoners ?
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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middlefinger;17899 Wrote:I thought this issue was settled.
This was never settled because the gitmo prisoners were to be scattered and splattered all over the nation and most legislators were against that outcome so it was postponed.
"The colors, the colors. Has anybody seen my good friend John?" Then he lit up a banana and he hung up.

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IronSight;17926 Wrote:I find the opposition to this move odd. The FBI has a track record of prosecuting terrorists in civilian courts that is far better than the military prosecution track record.

Take it to hardcore anti-Obama fanatics to find someone at fault for actually suggesting that terrorists be held responsible for their actions before a court of law.

Let's be honest, the same representatives that are pissed about this were all too willing to give the President the executive power to circumvent due process and judicial oversight to detain and execute American citizens and "suspected terrorists". Now they're just pissed because, supposedly, maybe, the President sees fit to go over their heads this time and seek out judicial oversight instead. Dodgy

Its the imbecilic naivete of the left to think that a terrorist should be treated in a court of law rather than a military court and thus held responsible for their actions. The Clinton administration started that folly. How's that FBI investigation going over at Benghazi? Oh wait, it isnt LOL!!

Someone should remind Emperor OhBahMuh that he is supposed to look out for the welfare of the country, not just his "hood":

"Illinois Sen. Richard Durbin added: “At this point, the president had to intervene and do this directly. I hope people understand he’s doing it for his state.” Reactivating the prison would create roughly 1,000 jobs in the president’s home state."

Lets be brutally honest about the disgust we should feel that anyone of any party would be willing to give the president the ability to circumvent the Constitution at will. We should be equally disgusted by a president who would seek out and execute his will in contempt of the Constitution.welcome
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Spacemanvic;18143 Wrote:I find the opposition to this move odd. The FBI has a track record of prosecuting terrorists in civilian courts that is far better than the military prosecution track record.

But what is a terrorist?
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Valorius;18155 Wrote:
Spacemanvic;18143 Wrote:I find the opposition to this move odd. The FBI has a track record of prosecuting terrorists in civilian courts that is far better than the military prosecution track record.

But what is a terrorist?

Depends who you ask.
To OhBlowMe:

Constitutionalists
Libertarians
Gun Owners
Christians
Veterans
Free Thinkers

My God, you're right! ATF, FBI, the courts, have a way better prosecutorial track record!
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IronSight;18229 Wrote:
Spacemanvic;18143 Wrote:Its the imbecilic naivete of the left to think that a terrorist should be treated in a court of law rather than a military court and thus held responsible for their actions.

Why don't you actually go look at the FBI's prosecution records on the issue and compare it to the military's.

Then again I don't expect a rational argument from you on these stories at all. Your reputation of simply arguing emotions rather than facts shines through in the first insulting sentence of your reply.

IronSight;18229 Wrote:Take it to hardcore anti-Obama fanatics to find someone at fault
Dish it cant take it?Roflmao
Please tell me again how good we have it with OhBlowMe?
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IronSight;18248 Wrote:
Spacemanvic;18241 Wrote:Dish it cant take it?Roflmao
Please tell me again how good we have it with OhBlowMe?

Dodgy right, I'm just so upset about it Rolleyes

The fact that you identify with that comment of mine is all I need to know about your opinion to realize that I just don't care about it at all.

The "OhBlowMe" remark proves it further, let me know when your voice drops and you can start sitting at the grown up table.
I identify "with" the comment because you addressed it to me - has ANYONE told you how this works?
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IronSight;17926 Wrote:I find the opposition to this move odd. The FBI has a track record of prosecuting terrorists in civilian courts that is far better than the military prosecution track record.

Take it to hardcore anti-Obama fanatics to find someone at fault for actually suggesting that terrorists be held responsible for their actions before a court of law.

Let's be honest, the same representatives that are pissed about this were all too willing to give the President the executive power to circumvent due process and judicial oversight to detain and execute American citizens and "suspected terrorists". Now they're just pissed because, supposedly, maybe, the President sees fit to go over their heads this time and seek out judicial oversight instead. Dodgy

wait, you mean people should actually be tried for a crime and either convicted or let go?!?! say it ain't so!

those evil terrorists...we need to keep them locked away forever, without them ever being charged of a crime or going to court.

Rolleyes
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andrewjs18;18299 Wrote:
IronSight;17926 Wrote:I find the opposition to this move odd. The FBI has a track record of prosecuting terrorists in civilian courts that is far better than the military prosecution track record.

Take it to hardcore anti-Obama fanatics to find someone at fault for actually suggesting that terrorists be held responsible for their actions before a court of law.

Let's be honest, the same representatives that are pissed about this were all too willing to give the President the executive power to circumvent due process and judicial oversight to detain and execute American citizens and "suspected terrorists". Now they're just pissed because, supposedly, maybe, the President sees fit to go over their heads this time and seek out judicial oversight instead. Dodgy

wait, you mean people should actually be tried for a crime and either convicted or let go?!?! say it ain't so!

those evil terrorists...we need to keep them locked away forever, without them ever being charged of a crime or going to court.

Rolleyes
They should be shot when caught. And not given the opportunity to recruit in prison or make grand speeches in court or return to the battlefield to kill our troops. Which they've been doing since this jackass took office.
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Spacemanvic;18317 Wrote:
andrewjs18;18299 Wrote:wait, you mean people should actually be tried for a crime and either convicted or let go?!?! say it ain't so!

those evil terrorists...we need to keep them locked away forever, without them ever being charged of a crime or going to court.

Rolleyes
They should be shot when caught. And not given the opportunity to recruit or make grand speeches in court.

caught doing what? being a 'potential' terrorist?

geez, I wonder if I'd get shot for being anti-state?!!?!
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