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Dorner case shows folly of arming oneself to combat government
#41
RugerGirl;80116 Wrote:I see what you're saying, and I admit it *sounds* good. But....keep in mind, the government is ALREADY at least ten steps ahead of the public. They're already planning for an uprising. They're already stocked with ammo and weaponry. They're already putting pieces in place for any eventuality. And the public? The public is just now starting to wake up and say "Uh oh, maybe we have a problem." We still do not have enough unity and numbers to find out what the government is planning, let alone to organize some sort of uprising.

Well we can never know for sure unless it happens. Hopefully we don't have to experience that.
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#42
bac0nfat;80118 Wrote:
RugerGirl;80116 Wrote:I see what you're saying, and I admit it *sounds* good. But....keep in mind, the government is ALREADY at least ten steps ahead of the public. They're already planning for an uprising. They're already stocked with ammo and weaponry. They're already putting pieces in place for any eventuality. And the public? The public is just now starting to wake up and say "Uh oh, maybe we have a problem." We still do not have enough unity and numbers to find out what the government is planning, let alone to organize some sort of uprising.

Well we can never know for sure unless it happens. Hopefully we don't have to experience that.

Hopefully not.
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#43
If there was a movement that appealed to those dormant the us military would be on our side the police forces would be on our side and we would be on our side. The other side offers nothing to anyone, it is full of the insecure and fearful. They cannot fight. The problem is does it happen while people crave freedom or after we've been sent to the showers?
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ExcelToExcel;80202 Wrote:If there was a movement that appealed to those dormant the us military would be on our side the police forces would be on our side and we would be on our side. The other side offers nothing to anyone, it is full of the insecure and fearful. They cannot fight. The problem is does it happen while people crave freedom or after we've been sent to the showers?

Huh? I'm confused by your post. Define "our side" and "other side." Because if all hell breaks loose and marshall law is declared, I'm pretty sure that most of the military and LEO will be against us. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean.
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#45
The biggest threat to the military, which they admit they cannot control, stop, or prevent, is insider threats.

They start going after people's rights, that threat might grow exponentially.

In fact, if these military members paid attention to their oath, it damn well better.
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Camper;80242 Wrote:The biggest threat to the military, which they admit they cannot control, stop, or prevent, is insider threats.

They start going after people's rights, that threat might grow exponentially.

In fact, if these military members paid attention to their oath, it damn well better.

Not to mention the fact that every one of these anti freedom initiatives also impacts the families of those service members. They still have to live in the economy and deal with the same crap the rest of us deal with.
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#47
They would all be on the side of freedom. I think we underestimate the soldiers/police loyalties. At a point in time they would stop and question what they are being asked to do. That's when the tide turns.

bac0nfat;80207 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;80202 Wrote:If there was a movement that appealed to those dormant the us military would be on our side the police forces would be on our side and we would be on our side. The other side offers nothing to anyone, it is full of the insecure and fearful. They cannot fight. The problem is does it happen while people crave freedom or after we've been sent to the showers?

Huh? I'm confused by your post. Define "our side" and "other side." Because if all hell breaks loose and marshall law is declared, I'm pretty sure that most of the military and LEO will be against us. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean.

They would all be on the side of freedom. I think we underestimate the soldiers/police loyalties. At a point in time they would stop and question what they are being asked to do. That's when the tide turns.

bac0nfat;80207 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;80202 Wrote:If there was a movement that appealed to those dormant the us military would be on our side the police forces would be on our side and we would be on our side. The other side offers nothing to anyone, it is full of the insecure and fearful. They cannot fight. The problem is does it happen while people crave freedom or after we've been sent to the showers?

Huh? I'm confused by your post. Define "our side" and "other side." Because if all hell breaks loose and marshall law is declared, I'm pretty sure that most of the military and LEO will be against us. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean.
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#48
Quote:And there are many like Bryan, who asked: "What if the German Jews had been well armed" against Hitler?

My answer: They would have been slaughtered by the Nazi Panzer divisions.

The French and Poles were well armed. How'd that work out?

I would like to point out something here.
When the Nazi Blitzkrieg rolled into poland the Pols fought hard, their biggest issue they were using mounted cavalry and WW1 and older combat techniques against the modern german army. Of course they would have been slaughtered.
As for the french forgive me if i am not 100& accurate here but there was a large portion of the french government that supported Nazi Germany and "rolled over" when the Germans invaded france.

As for armed opposition against superior forces may I point out the Bielski
Brothers that fought the germans from camps in the woods and succeeded against a superior force that wanted to exterminate them.
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#49
Nobody has conquered camel fucking afghanis.
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