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ESPN Reporter Firearm Comments
#1
Seems like ESPN is now getting in to the act of advocating for restricting firearms.

People who misuse them aren't doing us any favors in public perception. And these athletes come in to money, and fame, with all the access that brings, while many seem too immature to handle it. So it seems like the major sports leagues could do a better job preparing them. But ultimately it comes down to the individual.

While I understand trying to prevent tragedies, I strongly disagree with a labor union getting involved with any restrictions or qualifications on fundamental rights as a condition of employment.

And F him as to how many guns someone should or shouldn't own.

These people just don't seem to comprehend that murder and DUI are already illegal, and yet they still happen.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/872702...tic-issues

"Finally, there has already been plenty said about guns in the wake of the Belcher tragedy. This much is worth adding: There is no legal issue with people owning guns. Where it becomes a serious problem is when the people owning them don't have proper training or an adequate understanding of the consequences that come with them. The league could create its own systems for educating these young men on the dangers involved -- either by having police do the training or victims of gun violence tell their stories. In other words, somebody should have been asking Belcher why he needed to own eight guns when he lived in a Kansas City suburb."
ABuck, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#2
The left with their newly elected dictator is, as predicted, going to full court press gun control from every venue and every angle.
You're gonna hear it ad nauseum for the next 4 years until they get what they want.
Elections have consequences.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” -- Thomas Jefferson
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#3
I'm only going to support a total firearms ban if it includes a total disarmament of all police and the National Guard FIRST. Call me when that happens.

Maybe if you're in the NFL you shouldn't be allowed to own dogs. (Vick)
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#4
ArcticSplash;50677 Wrote:I'm only going to support a total firearms ban if it includes a total disarmament of all police and the National Guard FIRST. Call me when that happens.

Maybe if you're in the NFL you shouldn't be allowed to own dogs. (Vick)



I will never support such nonsense. The government is only one possible threat that might come through my front door or meet me on the street. What about rapists? What about home invasions? Car-jackings? Gangs?

You get the idea. There is absolutely no logical, realistic scenario in which I would support a total firearms ban or disarmament.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

William Pitt
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#5
It seems like the NFL DUI training works so well with it's players. Dodgy

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/i...-avoidable

"Brent already did time while in college on drunken driving charges, which means the significance of the crime theoretically should have been impressed upon him. Drunken driving is as selfish, avoidable and inexcusable a crime as there is -- especially for high-profile professional athletes, who have myriad other options available to them by the time they decide to go home after having too much to drink. Every single player in the NFL has a "safe rides" program available to him courtesy of the NFL Players Association. Many teams also offer "safe rides" programs, which provide players with a phone number they can call for a ride at any time, anywhere in the United States. And if for some reason a player doesn't want to reach out for help from such a program, he certainly can always call a cab.

The decision to get behind the wheel of a car after you've had too much to drink is flatly irresponsible -- whether you play NFL football or not. But there were a number of NFL drunken driving cases this offseason, including the Giants' David Diehl, the Lions' Nick Fairley and the Jaguars' Justin Blackmon. And although none of those cases resulted in anyone getting injured or killed, this is not the first case in league history that has. It serves as a reminder of why it's so important for the league to make its players aware of the seriousness of the issue, and the number of drunken driving cases the league still deals with serves as a reminder that the message isn't sinking in."
ABuck, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#6
The keep calling this the "Belcher Tragedy" like he was some wonderful role model who succumbed to the evil gun culture. Like he was a victim himself. Belcher was a bad guy, a murderer. It's not his tragedy, it's Kasandra Perkins' tragedy, the girl who was unfortunate enough to be with him. That's like saying WWII was a tragedy for Hitler. Poor Adolf, he was a victim of a culture of leadership.
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#7
Curmudgeon;50679 Wrote:
ArcticSplash;50677 Wrote:I'm only going to support a total firearms ban if it includes a total disarmament of all police and the National Guard FIRST. Call me when that happens.

Maybe if you're in the NFL you shouldn't be allowed to own dogs. (Vick)



I will never support such nonsense. The government is only one possible threat that might come through my front door or meet me on the street. What about rapists? What about home invasions? Car-jackings? Gangs?

You get the idea. There is absolutely no logical, realistic scenario in which I would support a total firearms ban or disarmament.

I don't think you quite got what I was saying. The left would never support such a thing I said. The libs only want "special" people to have guns.

Like Frank Tepper:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/tag/frank-tepper/
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#8
ArcticSplash;50692 Wrote:
Curmudgeon;50679 Wrote:I will never support such nonsense. The government is only one possible threat that might come through my front door or meet me on the street. What about rapists? What about home invasions? Car-jackings? Gangs?

You get the idea. There is absolutely no logical, realistic scenario in which I would support a total firearms ban or disarmament.

I don't think you quite got what I was saying. The left would never support such a thing I said. The libs only want "special" people to have guns.

Like Frank Tepper:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/tag/frank-tepper/

So it sounds like you're tossing it out there almost as a dare, to illustrate the point, like sarcasm? You suspect they would never go for it. I guess. For me it doesn't change my statement. Additionally, I don't want to make a statement that any anti-gun type could extract and say "See? Even pro gun types would favor a total ban under the right circumstances."

While I see your clarified intent I still disagree with the strategy. I will always try to use pro-2A and pro-rights statements to counter their arguments. I have done precisely this at least 2 times in recent memory as a counter to the "would you support a total gun ban if the bad guys lost their guns too?" hypothetical. And I would not, for the reasons already stated in my last post. In both cases the other guy "got" my point and saw the flaw in their ridiculous hypothetical.

Just my approach I guess.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

William Pitt
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#9
Did any one read the article about the NFL and guns in firday's USA Today? It talked about approx 75% of NFL players own guns and that they get them shortly after they get well known. A way to keep them safe from thugs that wish to rob them. It seemed to have a slight anti lean but seemed to do a decent job keeping itself unbiased overall. Never called for an outright ban or anything like that.
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