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FBI Banns Tannerite Targets In Several States
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Quote: PCurrently, the FBI's top investigative priorities are:[5]
1.Protect the United States from terrorist attacks (see counter-terrorism);
2.Protect the United States against foreign intelligence operations and espionage (see counterintelligence);
3.Protect the United States against cyber-based attacks and high-technology crimes (see cyberwarfare);
4.Combat public corruption at all levels;
5.Protect civil rights;
6.Combat transnational/national criminal organizations and enterprises (see organized crime);
7.Combat major white-collar crime;
8.Combat significant violent crime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bur...estigation


Priorities....Tannerite = Terrorist.
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#12
JustinHEMI;114134 Wrote:Again, by what right, does the fbi have to do any such thing?

Justin

We gave to consider the possibility that they haven't.
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#13
Reading is fundamental. The U.S. Forest Service banned the targets on federal lands in those states as a fire hazard. As someone else pointed out, no different than a burn ban.

As for the FBI, they're just talking about potential terrorism involving those targets. Obviously this comes from administrators by way of Oblowme. I'm sure field agents are laughing considering the cost of a sufficient quantity to make an impact. Obviously, it would be much cheaper to steal fertilizer, propane or a host of other chemicals. Since it involves the shooting sports, it's obviously a priority for the criminals running the show in D.C.
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unclejumbo;114149 Wrote:Reading is fundamental. The U.S. Forest Service banned the targets on federal lands in those states as a fire hazard. As someone else pointed out, no different than a burn ban.

As for the FBI, they're just talking about potential terrorism involving those targets. Obviously this comes from administrators by way of Oblowme. I'm sure field agents are laughing considering the cost of a sufficient quantity to make an impact. Obviously, it would be much cheaper to steal fertilizer, propane or a host of other chemicals. Since it involves the shooting sports, it's obviously a priority for the criminals running the show in D.C.

Thanks for the correction!

Justin
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I heard the History Channel, Sons of Guns, and American Guns are all stockpiling it since nobody cares about accuracy and would rather see shit explode.
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#16
I'm guessing this has already been asked, but since when does the FBI have the ability to 'ban' anything? ,7
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#17
I thought Tannerite (actual not homemade or a knockoff) was not flammable? How can something not flammable start a fire?
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#18
Ammonium nitrate and aluma-seal for the aluminum powder. Gotcha.
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Warpt762x39;114184 Wrote:I thought Tannerite (actual not homemade or a knockoff) was not flammable? How can something not flammable start a fire?

Yes, this once again shows the failure in the government's understanding of fundamentals of what they wish to ban in not making the distinction between things that detonate and things that deflagrate. High explosives destroy because of the shock wave and pressure the generate, not really fire. Explosives on a civilian level on their own generally don't cause fires except in a special place known as Hollywood where gasoline is usually used to produce the fireball. Apparently the FBI failed to read about Red Adair's exploits and others in the oil industry whereby oil well fires can literally be blown out like a candle from the force of a nearby explosive charge. Tannerite expands at 7,000 m/s which means that in general the heat and gas generated is so fleeting it is not enough to actually cause a fire. A dixie cup of gasoline on the other hand is not banned and is about 100x more likely to cause a forest fire than even several pounds of Tannerite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRfrbXkU5Gs

Above, that is 10 tons of ANFO...do you see any fireball...at all?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7fvzFMlneI

There's an m67 hand grenade...again no fireball...

Now lets look at the work of Michael Bay and a few drums of gasoline packed around some small primary charges Tongue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn_HFEDNZ_Q

See the difference lol?

As we see time and time again the government is only interested in making sure the only legal activities consenting adults can partake in activities that minimize the risk of removing a life long wage slave from tax paying. For a very long time sticks of dynamite were readily available to regular citizens for use in building ponds, removing giant tree stumps and whatever else without a bunch of permits and god knows what else. In spite of this people did not live in fear of terrorism even though during this time in response to the arrest of Sacco and Vanzetti, radical left wing communists carried out what is widely considered America's first terrorist attack killing 38 people and injuring over 100.

How about that for a fact? America's first terrorist attack was likely committed by domestic radical leftists, somehow I don't think that one will ever come up on MSNBC the next time they go on a domestic terrorist witch hunt. It just goes to show that like with guns, it makes no difference what is and is not banned all it takes is a properly motivated individual with malice intent. It's all a joke, we live in a theater built to imprison the minds of a formerly free society. They teach us what to think, what to fear and provide a very nice dog and pony and extremely expensive stage show for us to watch when we get on an airplane. Even if you could still easily buy a large sack of Ammonium Nitrate the vast majority of the population would have no idea the physics and chemistry involved to actually make it work, even the actual terrorists repeatedly fuck it up (The shoe bomber, the Times Square bomber, and underwear bomber had absolutely no clue what they were doing if you read the FBI's reports). It's all about the illusion of security.

Any kind of restriction with regards to Tannerite is just another example of a thinly veiled example of government overreach and further degradation of our rights.
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#20
Here we go...Angry What convenient timing, and it's a white dude too. MSNBC will have a field day with this...

Quote:But detectives encountered quite a bit more than they bargained for Friday.

Here’s what they found, KTXL-TV reports:

Several explosive materials, including two jars of tannerite
Several jars of black powder
A pipe bomb
Numerous cricket bombs
A cell phone converted into a detonation remote
20 high-capacity magazines
20,000-30,000 rounds of ammunition
Four assault rifles, a shotgun, a rifle, five handguns (two of the rifles and one of the handguns were equipped with silencers)
Several passports
$30,000 in cash
[Image: arsenal-found-2-e1376796170508.jpg]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/...-linda-ca/
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