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Feds: Chicago-area man charged over attempted terrorist attack
#1
These things always leave me feeling a little bit cynical, meaning I wonder how much goading it took from the feds to make him move forward with his plan...


"The explosives that Daoud allegedly attempted to detonate posed no threat to the public. They were inert and had been supplied by undercover law enforcement personnel," said Gary Shapiro, the acting U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/justice/il...?hpt=hp_t3
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#2
I could just imagine what the fbi considers a weapon of mass destruction.Rolleyes
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(09-16-2012, 11:58 AM)bogey1 Wrote: I could just imagine what the fbi considers a weapon of mass destruction.Rolleyes


Cow farts. They erode the atmosphere... don'tcha know? Rolleyes

Seriously, their definition of a WMD is probably so ridiculous that it would only make sense to a politician.
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#4
If it couldn't explode. How can it be considered an explosive?
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#5
It seems like the only terrorists they arrest are the ones dumb enough to be goaded into doing something. Everyone I hear on the news starts out by saying the explosives/weapons were not real and were provided by undercover agents.
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(09-16-2012, 10:02 PM)CPratt Wrote: It seems like the only terrorists they arrest are the ones dumb enough to be goaded into doing something. Everyone I hear on the news starts out by saying the explosives/weapons were not real and were provided by undercover agents.


But the FBI is protecting us from those nutjobs? Don't you see, it's really obvious. The FBI goes out trolling for disaffected yutes, brings them into an organization and feeds their egos. Then gives them a bunch of "explosives" and arrests them claiming that they stopped yet another terrorist attack.

...and all the masses cheer!

Occasionally though, when they need to push for more imposition upon our rights, they explosives aren't fake.
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(09-16-2012, 12:36 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: If it couldn't explode. How can it be considered an explosive?


They are probably prosecuting him because he had the intent and, as far as he knew, the explosives were real and he was blowing up a building. This being said, I do wonder how much the guy was goaded into doing this...

(09-16-2012, 10:13 PM)streaker69 Wrote:
(09-16-2012, 10:02 PM)CPratt Wrote: It seems like the only terrorists they arrest are the ones dumb enough to be goaded into doing something. Everyone I hear on the news starts out by saying the explosives/weapons were not real and were provided by undercover agents.


But the FBI is protecting us from those nutjobs? Don't you see, it's really obvious. The FBI goes out trolling for disaffected yutes, brings them into an organization and feeds their egos. Then gives them a bunch of "explosives" and arrests them claiming that they stopped yet another terrorist attack.

...and all the masses cheer!


I'm really wondering if this is what happened here...
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(09-17-2012, 04:31 AM)rmagill Wrote:
(09-16-2012, 12:36 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: If it couldn't explode. How can it be considered an explosive?


They are probably prosecuting him because he had the intent and, as far as he knew, the explosives were real and he was blowing up a building. This being said, I do wonder how much the guy was goaded into doing this...

(09-16-2012, 10:13 PM)streaker69 Wrote:
(09-16-2012, 10:02 PM)CPratt Wrote: It seems like the only terrorists they arrest are the ones dumb enough to be goaded into doing something. Everyone I hear on the news starts out by saying the explosives/weapons were not real and were provided by undercover agents.


But the FBI is protecting us from those nutjobs? Don't you see, it's really obvious. The FBI goes out trolling for disaffected yutes, brings them into an organization and feeds their egos. Then gives them a bunch of "explosives" and arrests them claiming that they stopped yet another terrorist attack.

...and all the masses cheer!


I'm really wondering if this is what happened here...


That's exactly what happens; they feed into these people. There's not a site run by the FBI that says "buy explosives here." You have to get into an organization to find these people as you're not going to get the lone wolfs to go for it, and you have to be there awhile to be reputable, and feeding into them and stroking their egos, and getting them amped up makes them want to go do something instead of just talking about it on the internet and then they can supply the person.

How else would it even work?
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(09-17-2012, 04:31 AM)rmagill Wrote:
(09-16-2012, 12:36 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: If it couldn't explode. How can it be considered an explosive?


They are probably prosecuting him because he had the intent and, as far as he knew, the explosives were real and he was blowing up a building. This being said, I do wonder how much the guy was goaded into doing this...

(09-16-2012, 10:13 PM)streaker69 Wrote:
(09-16-2012, 10:02 PM)CPratt Wrote: It seems like the only terrorists they arrest are the ones dumb enough to be goaded into doing something. Everyone I hear on the news starts out by saying the explosives/weapons were not real and were provided by undercover agents.


But the FBI is protecting us from those nutjobs? Don't you see, it's really obvious. The FBI goes out trolling for disaffected yutes, brings them into an organization and feeds their egos. Then gives them a bunch of "explosives" and arrests them claiming that they stopped yet another terrorist attack.

...and all the masses cheer!


I'm really wondering if this is what happened here...


Following that logic, shouldn't the inside agents also be charged for expressing intent and conspiracy?
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They would likely argue that their intent was to prevent the explosion, which is why they gave him inert materials.

(09-17-2012, 08:38 AM)ByblosHex Wrote:
(09-17-2012, 04:31 AM)rmagill Wrote:
(09-16-2012, 12:36 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: If it couldn't explode. How can it be considered an explosive?


They are probably prosecuting him because he had the intent and, as far as he knew, the explosives were real and he was blowing up a building. This being said, I do wonder how much the guy was goaded into doing this...

(09-16-2012, 10:13 PM)streaker69 Wrote: But the FBI is protecting us from those nutjobs? Don't you see, it's really obvious. The FBI goes out trolling for disaffected yutes, brings them into an organization and feeds their egos. Then gives them a bunch of "explosives" and arrests them claiming that they stopped yet another terrorist attack.

...and all the masses cheer!


I'm really wondering if this is what happened here...


Following that logic, shouldn't the inside agents also be charged for expressing intent and conspiracy?
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