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Feds seize hundreds of assault rifle parts from gun-maker
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Quote:Feds seize hundreds of assault rifle parts from gun-maker
Associated Press By DAVE COLLINS
May 19, 2015 1:52 PM

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — Federal authorities are investigating a Connecticut gun-maker after agents found nearly 3,000 assault rifle parts missing serial numbers, according to recently filed court documents.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents seized nearly 300 of the AR-15 parts from Stag Arms in September following routine inspections, prosecutors said. At the time, the father of Stag Arms owner Mark Malkowski told authorities that the employee who places serial numbers on parts was on vacation.
http://news.yahoo.com/feds-seek-keep-ass...09740.html
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This typically only ever happens after two or three warnings. From what I know, Stag was pretty stupid. They were warned unofficially first, then officially, and STILL didn't comply.
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shademtarmory;165692 Wrote:This typically only ever happens after two or three warnings. From what I know, Stag was pretty stupid. They were warned unofficially first, then officially, and STILL didn't comply.

Seems like a dumb business practice to only have one person capable of serializing a part, no?

Well, rules is rules.
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Were they selling the unserilalized lowers? If not, I do not see a problem. Same rule as buying 80% lowers and then completing the build yourself. Sell it and you must obtain a serial number.
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(05-21-2015, 02:29 PM)Uinta Firearms Wrote: Were they selling the unserilalized lowers? If not, I do not see a problem. Same rule as buying 80% lowers and then completing the build yourself. Sell it and you must obtain a serial number.

I believe if you have 3,000 lying around and you're a manufacturer, it's safe to say the intent to sell is there. Definitely not the same rule. They are a licensed manufacturer, not an individual making them for personal use. Some of them were also unserialized machine gun lowers, a much bigger no-no.
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Wait, I thought it was all about intent?

I'm confused.
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(05-21-2015, 03:09 PM)Mr_Gixxer Wrote: Wait, I thought it was all about intent?

I'm confused.

From what I understand, as a manufacturer your intent is all but automatically assumed it's for sale (with few exceptions). As an individual, it's different. Such as if you had one or two lowers, you can't really prove intent based just on possession. If you have 1,000 lowers as an individual, intent to sell becomes much easier to prove.
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shademtarmory;165702 Wrote:
(05-21-2015, 03:09 PM)Mr_Gixxer Wrote: Wait, I thought it was all about intent?

I'm confused.

From what I understand, as a manufacturer you're intent is all but automatically assumed it's for sale (with few exceptions). As an individual, it's different. Such as if you had on or two lowers, you can't really prove intent based on just possession. If you have 1,000 lowers as an individual, intent to sell becomes much easier to prove.

What I meant was they intended to serialize them. There was never any intent to skirt the laws and/or sell unserialized firearms.
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(05-21-2015, 03:52 PM)Mr_Gixxer Wrote: What I meant was they intended to serialize them. There was never any intent to skirt the laws and/or sell unserialized firearms.

I got ya now. They may have stated that, but regardless it doesn't matter. They were warned multiple times to do it and never did it.
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