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First true negative open carry encounter with Septa Police
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Today was my first true negative oc encounter. I was handcuffed because I stated I do not concent to my gun being removed from it's secure holster. I was upset on the inside but calm on the surface. I do plan to pursue this further. I was not physically abused but was in moderate discomfort/ slight pain while handcuffed. I am going to get some advise from a few trusted sources and will post more details after I decide what my next step will be.

I will state that I am still upset and will need to clear my mind about this encounter before I post anything else about it.
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#2
Put down as many details as you can NOW. Just don't do it here. I wouldn't post anything further online unless or until an attorney clears it, or you decide that an attorney's input is not a factor.
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#3
Was this simply because you were OCing or was there other circumstances leading to this encounter?
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mpan72;47455 Wrote:Today was my first true negative oc encounter. I was handcuffed because I stated I do not concent to my gun being removed from it's secure holster. I was upset on the inside but calm on the surface. I do plan to pursue this further. I was not physically abused but was in moderate discomfort/ slight pain while handcuffed. I am going to get some advise from a few trusted sources and will post more details after I decide what my next step will be.

I will state that I am still upset and will need to clear my mind about this encounter before I post anything else about it.

Were you actually arraigned or was just held and then let go? Be careful, even if you're set free on site--doesn't mean that they'll fill out a PARS report and try to push it to the DA's office.
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#5
Pay attention and lawyer up. People are trying to help you here.
Do not say anything more until your legal beagle says it is okay.
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#6
Good Luck!!!
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#7
I would suggest PMing a member who has also had bad experience more details to get their take on what steps to take now.
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#8
Considering I often take SEPTA rail into center city, please give more details and updates IF/WHEN you can. Thank you.
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#9
A few years ago I wrote SEPTA about their carry policy. I posted this on PAFOA:

Quote:I've heard the question a few times here, "Can you carry on SEPTA" I've heard a few answers, most say yes.

I thought I'd take it one step farther and ask SEPTA.

My question:

Quote:I would like to know the official policy regarding the carry of firearms on SEPTA vehicles by a person who has a legally issued license to carry firearms but is not a police officer.

If such a policy exists is a copy of it available on the internet?

Thank You

SEPTA's answer:

Quote:Thank you for contacting us. Management from the Transit Police Department reports that the law allows valid permit holders to carry firearms on our system, though they would prefer that they not do so. There is no policy that they are aware of, just the law.

Sincerely,

Barry Berky
SEPTA Customer Service

There ya have it, another law enforcement agency that knows it's legal, but would prefer you didn't carry at all.

Bill


Keep in mind, OC or CC riding SEPTA is vehicle carry and the LTCF would be needed.
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#10
I hope they don't pursue further action against you. I wish you all the best. Dom
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