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Fitness tests for schools
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http://www.myfoxny.com/story/21629545/pu...ness-tests

Quote:Russian President Vladimir Putin called Wednesday for the revival of a Soviet-era physical evaluation program that required all schoolchildren to pass fitness tests.

Putin, a judo enthusiast and a regular swimmer, said that the restoration of GTO, the Russian acronym for Ready for Labor and Defense, would teach children "to stand up for themselves, their family and, in the final run, the Fatherland."

So, why are new laws in Russia sounding closer and closer to new laws in America? Totally wouldn't be surprised if this passed in America.....and for similar reasons.
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What's wrong with having some type of physical fitness standards?
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Shodan;87868 Wrote:What's wrong with having some type of physical fitness standards?

Nothing.

Justin
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Sigh.

You see, when it doesn't involve YOU or YOUR family, you're okay with it.

When it does, you're not okay with it.

Do you want your job to mandate you live up to certain fitness standards, and give you rewards or consequences based on that? Maybe make your insurance more expensive or something? Or maybe you can get fitness standards at work, and then the government will raise your taxes based on your fitness....

Government mandates are NOT good. Even if YOU think THIS particular one is fine....its not. Thankfully its not for America....yet.
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JustinHEMI;87871 Wrote:
Shodan;87868 Wrote:What's wrong with having some type of physical fitness standards?

Nothing.

Justin

Amen.

Education to make the right decisions is much better than making Big Gulps illegal.

Though I think we have to be careful about passing or failing kids on what they are, rather than the effort they put in. I don't think that the fat kid should have to get thin in order to graduate. On the other hand, I think he or she should be given the tools they need to make the change if they choose to, and a clear understanding of the consequences of not doing so.

My own high school experience was a lost opportunity. Our football coach, also one of the PE instructors, was a guy named Al Vermeil. Yep, Dick's little brother.

He was developing a physical conditioning program within the football team that was truly pioneering in the emerging definition of what fitness really is and should be, and took athletic conditioning out of the dark ages.

The result in that job was a championship football team that won consistently in spite of being physically a lot smaller than much of the competition. (Al always liked the little guys anyway, being of small stature himself.)

In PE classes we only got a sample of what he could do and what he was learning.

He left us to become the conditioning coach for the 49ers.

After that, he went to Chicago as conditioning coach for both the Bulls and the Bears. He's the only person who has world championship rings in both the NBA and the NFL!

Imagine if young people, rather than wasting their time in PE sampling sport after sport instead got taught the fundamental principles of cardio-vascular conditioning, resistance training, and weight management through diet and exercise!

Coach Vermeil was a good motivator, though. Sometimes when I want to quit on the stair mill, I imagine him back there hollering, "Keep going! You can do it, maggot (his favorite term of endearment)!"
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RugerGirl;87876 Wrote:Sigh.

You see, when it doesn't involve YOU or YOUR family, you're okay with it.

When it does, you're not okay with it.

Do you want your job to mandate you live up to certain fitness standards, and give you rewards or consequences based on that? Maybe make your insurance more expensive or something? Or maybe you can get fitness standards at work, and then the government will raise your taxes based on your fitness....

Government mandates are NOT good. Even if YOU think THIS particular one is fine....its not. Thankfully its not for America....yet.

You're making a big leap from Putin thinking Russian kids should be in better shape to government mandating anything. At least a big leap is some kind of exercise.
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RugerGirl;87876 Wrote:Do you want your job to mandate you live up to certain fitness standards, and give you rewards or consequences based on that? Maybe make your insurance more expensive or something?

Mine does, and I'm okay with it. For completing an annual (confidential) fitness assessment, plus doing some (also confidential) sessions with a health counselor, and signing a no-tobacco pledge, I get a big percentage off my insurance rates and a few hundred bucks off my next year's deductable and $100 gift card to do with as I please.

I found the telephone counseling sessions useful; we worked out some strategies for me to use to make sure I keep hitting the gym regularly.

And you know what? I'm also okay with those grown-ups who choose to continue to suck on their coffin-nails paying for at least part of the additional risk they introduce into the insurance pool.
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gascolator;87903 Wrote:
RugerGirl;87876 Wrote:Do you want your job to mandate you live up to certain fitness standards, and give you rewards or consequences based on that? Maybe make your insurance more expensive or something?

Mine does, and I'm okay with it. For completing an annual (confidential) fitness assessment, plus doing some (also confidential) sessions with a health counselor, and signing a no-tobacco pledge, I get a big percentage off my insurance rates and a few hundred bucks off my next year's deductable and $100 gift card to do with as I please.

I found the telephone counseling sessions useful; we worked out some strategies for me to use to make sure I keep hitting the gym regularly.

And you know what? I'm also okay with those grown-ups who choose to continue to suck on their coffin-nails paying for at least part of the additional risk they introduce into the insurance pool.

My company also rewards us for healthy living. Smokers pay extra for insurance, as they should.

The NRC also regulates my health.

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There is a difference between government promoting a healthy lifestyle and government legislating against an unhealthy one. Physical fitness is part of as well as the result of a healthy lifestyle. As such, I believe that government has a mandate to promote physical fitness.

People need to realize that the food and drug "industry" in the United States is heavily geared towards an unhealthy lifestyle. All that subsidized corn, to create high fructose corn syrup as well as feed life stock pumped full of hormones ... you heard it all before. Fact is that McDonalds could not produce a dollar meal if our taxes would not have indirectly paid for most of the cost of it upfront already. It is only $1 over the counter. The real cost is a lot higher. Factor in not only the farming subsidies, but also a few of the hundreds of billions in health care.

Ever wondered why food and drugs are overseen by the same agency? It makes lobbying a lot easier.
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Please tell me if im wrong but didnt John F Kennedy start and push a physical education program here in the states? some people just have to have something to piss and moan about......
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