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Flying for Vacation
#1
This is a question for those that routinely fly for vacations. Do you take your gun with you?

I know it's relatively simple checking a firearm but I sometimes if it's worth the hassle when flying to another state for vacation.

Right now I am debating on whether or not I want to carry during my long weekend in Florida.
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#2
I'm still actively refusing to fly. If I were going to though and I were traveling to a place like Florida I think I would go through the hassle of checking my gun. The only exception I can think of is if I was planning to spend a week at Disney or some other strict victim zone.
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#3
Not when flying, no. Not worth the worry and hassle. Only takes one spazzed out TSA agent on a power trip to get you in the news, or a sticky fingered TSA checker to steal it.

I would definitely not take one. Unless it was an extended trip maybe to Utah or Alaska (have family both places) but even then, I would have to think about it.

Last time I had a bunch of metal in a suitcase (it was cake pans, tools, fondant, etc) my entire suitcase ended up permanently lost.

As a matter of fact, it is my goal anytime I fly from now on to just not even check luggage. Cost too much, and too much risk. Carry on only.
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RugerGirl;131659 Wrote:Not when flying, no. Not worth the worry and hassle. Only takes one spazzed out TSA agent on a power trip to get you in the news, or a sticky fingered TSA checker to steal it.

I would definitely not take one. Unless it was an extended trip maybe to Utah or Alaska (have family both places) but even then, I would have to think about it.

Last time I had a bunch of metal in a suitcase (it was cake pans, tools, fondant, etc) my entire suitcase ended up permanently lost.

As a matter of fact, it is my goal anytime I fly from now on to just not even check luggage. Cost too much, and too much risk. Carry on only.

Depends on the trip, but always remember as a gun owner before you travel COMPLETELY dump your bags and triple check them including all the pockets! Never assume that something didn't find it's way into them. One spazzed out TSA agent doesn't have to get you on a gun in your bag to make the local news, one bullet of live ammo that fell into a suitcase or was left in a reused range bag can fuck your whole world up and put you in deep shit! If you travel to another country you could be talking serious prison time. Always triple check.
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#5
I've been found to have live ammunition multiple times. once, i unknowingly flew three times before a handful of .22lr was found in my backpack. this most recent time, a jhp 9mm was found in my jacket lining. we searched for the pocket hole it fell through for a while until i just gave them permission to cut it out and went on my way.
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#6
I don't have details or a link, I'm sure someone here will be able to find and post it if they see fit. It may be urban legend or Internet tale but I know I read it on a presumably respectable web site a few months ago. It was before the Safe Act was passed, that someone was traveling by air with a gun, properly checked and everything on the up & up when due to weather or a mechanical problem the plane made an unscheduled stop in New York, (Not the final destination nor a planned layover. It seems as though the gun(s) he had properly packed, checked and stowed violated one of the many laws in New York and he found himself in a world of shit, being charged with crimes for whatever charges they found that they could charge him with. (I'm sure I remember the word "felony" being used in that piece.)
That being said, even if my memory is faulty or if what I read wasn't accurate, if I were inclined to carry while on vacation and I was going to fly to get there, I think I'd seriously consider finding someone to legally ship the gun to (FFL, gun shop comes to mind), and pick it up when I get there, then ship it back home when I'm ready to go home. Sounds like a lot of hassle and a bit of extra expense, but not as much hassle and expense as that poor fellow found himself in with an unscheduled stop along the way.
Regardless of what you decide to do, make sure you know the laws where you are going, (you can be sure their laws aren't identical to ours, they may have local ordinances in addition to state laws). Don't get hung up on just making sure you get there and back legally, make sure you know how to stay legal while you're there.
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#7
It is a great idea to flying for vacation. You need to be careful during travel.
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#8
could an ffl turn a handgun over to you if you've travelled out of state?
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mauser;136761 Wrote:I don't have details or a link, I'm sure someone here will be able to find and post it if they see fit. It may be urban legend or Internet tale but I know I read it on a presumably respectable web site a few months ago. It was before the Safe Act was passed, that someone was traveling by air with a gun, properly checked and everything on the up & up when due to weather or a mechanical problem the plane made an unscheduled stop in New York, (Not the final destination nor a planned layover. It seems as though the gun(s) he had properly packed, checked and stowed violated one of the many laws in New York and he found himself in a world of shit, being charged with crimes for whatever charges they found that they could charge him with. (I'm sure I remember the word "felony" being used in that piece.)
That being said, even if my memory is faulty or if what I read wasn't accurate, if I were inclined to carry while on vacation and I was going to fly to get there, I think I'd seriously consider finding someone to legally ship the gun to (FFL, gun shop comes tdo mind), and pick it up when I get there, then ship it back home when I'm ready to go home. Sounds like a lot of hassle and a bit of extra expense, but not as much hassle and expense as that poor fellow found himself in with an unscheduled stop along the way.
Regardless of what you decide to do, make sure you know the laws where you are going, (you can be sure their laws aren't identical to ours, they may have local ordinances in addition to state laws). Don't get hung up on just making sure you get there and back legally, make sure you know how to stay legal while you're there.
His problem was he foolishly retrieved his checked bag and took it to the hotel with him. Had he left it with the airline, he'd have been fine.
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(03-28-2014, 03:26 AM)panopticonisi Wrote: could an ffl turn a handgun over to you if you've travelled out of state?

There is always this option...

[URL="http://www.atf.gov/files/firearms/industry/0501-firearms-top-10-qas.pdf"]ATF FAQ [/URL]

Quote:6. May I lawfully ship a firearm to myself in a different State? Any person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in the care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner “in the care of” the out-of-State resident. Upon reaching its destination, persons other than the owner must not open the package or take possession of the firearm.
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