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FMJ -vs- JHP
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(09-17-2012, 04:16 PM)Valorius Wrote:
(09-12-2012, 11:19 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: Taking over-penetration in to consideration I've starting carrying 4 JHPs followed by 4 FMJs in my .45 primarily because if I'm firing more than 4 rounds at a target, I may be less concerned about over-penetration by that point.

If you want deep penetration, 185gr+P hard cast semi wadcutters would be a much better selection. It'll penetrate deeper than FMJ, is less likely to ricochet off a hard surface, and it will leave a full caliber diameter hole, as opposed to round nose FMJ, which leaves a hole approx 1/2 the diameter of the projectile.

I have Buffalo Bore 100gr+P hard cast flat nose rounds in both my extra magazines for my LCP.


Buffalo Bore makes them in .45 ACP?
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Buffalo Bore Handgun Ammo
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(09-17-2012, 06:27 PM)Cherokee60 Wrote: Buffalo Bore Handgun Ammo

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(09-17-2012, 06:32 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: Too many things to click on. Yes or No?
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YES, lazy bones! A bunch in .45 ACP...

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(09-17-2012, 06:57 PM)Cherokee60 Wrote:
(09-17-2012, 06:32 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: Too many things to click on. Yes or No?
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YES, lazy bones! A bunch in .45 ACP...

Now go get me a cup of coffee!


That's what I need. A cup of coffee. lol. Been doing the work for an entire department these past few weeks. :p
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(09-17-2012, 05:34 PM)dman Wrote:
(09-17-2012, 04:16 PM)Valorius Wrote:
(09-12-2012, 11:19 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: Taking over-penetration in to consideration I've starting carrying 4 JHPs followed by 4 FMJs in my .45 primarily because if I'm firing more than 4 rounds at a target, I may be less concerned about over-penetration by that point.

If you want deep penetration, 185gr+P hard cast semi wadcutters would be a much better selection. It'll penetrate deeper than FMJ, is less likely to ricochet off a hard surface, and it will leave a full caliber diameter hole, as opposed to round nose FMJ, which leaves a hole approx 1/2 the diameter of the projectile.

I have Buffalo Bore 100gr+P hard cast flat nose rounds in both my extra magazines for my LCP.

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(09-17-2012, 06:25 PM)ByblosHex Wrote:
(09-17-2012, 04:16 PM)Valorius Wrote:
(09-12-2012, 11:19 PM)ByblosHex Wrote: Taking over-penetration in to consideration I've starting carrying 4 JHPs followed by 4 FMJs in my .45 primarily because if I'm firing more than 4 rounds at a target, I may be less concerned about over-penetration by that point.

If you want deep penetration, 185gr+P hard cast semi wadcutters would be a much better selection. It'll penetrate deeper than FMJ, is less likely to ricochet off a hard surface, and it will leave a full caliber diameter hole, as opposed to round nose FMJ, which leaves a hole approx 1/2 the diameter of the projectile.

I have Buffalo Bore 100gr+P hard cast flat nose rounds in both my extra magazines for my LCP.


Buffalo Bore makes them in .45 ACP?

Buffalo Bore does make a very hot hard cast lead flat nose round, but you could easily load your own for a mere fraction of the price too. There are probably other companies that make a similar set up as well.

Basically, as long as it's hard cast and has a flat nose, it is going to PENETRATE and still give you a much better wound profile than a round nose.

Here's a link to the Buffalo Bore version. You can probably expect 30+" penetration in gel with this round. I carry the .380+P version, as i mentioned. That one punches clean through a 24" gel block in tests:

Catalog # 45255------------960 fps (255gr. HARD CAST-FLAT NOSE)

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=...tail&p=214

That's a seriously hot round right there, with a huge meplat (flat part of the nose). These rounds should smash through car doors, glass, and wood like it's not even there. It's probably also the #1 anti-bear round available in .45acp+P as well.
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(09-17-2012, 04:16 PM)Valorius Wrote: [quote='ByblosHex' pid='3104' dateline='1347506385']
I have Buffalo Bore 100gr+P hard cast flat nose rounds in both my extra magazines for my LCP.


I have been considering going this route for my LCP. I have been carrying Winchester Ranger T ammo in it since I got it. How does the +p perform in the LCP? I know Ruger doesn't recommend it (i'm assuming to cover their ass, so SAMMI spec for +p) but BB says it is OK to shoot from an LCP. How is the recoil on the round? Does it seem like it "stresses" the gun at all? The last thing I would want is for my LCP to blow apart in the middle of a defensive situation.
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The 80gr+P Buffalo Barnes Unleaded round they sell is pretty mild in recoil because the bullet is so light. That's what i carry in the weapon.

The 100gr+P rounds are hot enough that they make the hand sting after just a few rounds. Definitely no fun for target shooting. Wink I carry the 100gr+P round in my 2 back up magazines, for barrier penetration, xenomorph defense, etc, etc.
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Anybody bother to look into the JHP with the self defense plastic ball in the tip?
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