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Four Gun Laws I Would Repeal First (If I Was a Benevolent Dictator)
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PRETTY GOOD READ. das
Four Gun Laws I Would Repeal First (If I Was a Benevolent Dictator)
Published on Thursday, October 16, 2014

By Tom McHale
Gun Control Genie

Four Gun Laws I Would Repeal First (If I Was a Benevolent Dictator)
Benevolent Dictator Tom McHale

Benevolent Dictator Tom McHale

USA --(Ammoland.com)- Back when I was young, naive and not yet wise to the ways of the world, about two weeks ago, I was fantasizing about being elected Benevolent Dictator of the Universe. You know, just like President Nine Iron.

Since I view the whole gun issue as a great barometer for individual liberty and personal accountability, it would make sense for my first official acts to be striking down some of the more onerous gun laws.

Figuring out exactly which laws to start with would be quite a challenge as there are over 20,000 gun control laws on the books. Why? Because “compromise,” that’s why.

Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2014/10/four-gun...z3GLQKWUUN
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how do the denizens of pa2a feel about the firearms prohibition on felons?
Stirpot
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panopticonisi;158199 Wrote:how do the denizens of pa2a feel about the firearms prohibition on felons?
IMO it depends on the crime and the persons character and history. I dont think one bad choice makes everyone a bad person. We all make mistakes, we are only human.
das, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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panopticonisi;158199 Wrote:how do the denizens of pa2a feel about the firearms prohibition on felons?

It's total bullshit.
This should be #1 on the list. Fuck NYS and the SAFE act. They want it they can live with it.
Life long prohibitions are the #1 form of gun control, and it's not just felons. Anyone that is so dangerous that the gov can never trust them to so much as touch a firearm doesn't belong outside a jail.
if they are never to be trusted with a firearm then the gov needs to make the case why it's OK for them to live next door to me.
There needs to be a road to restore rights after any prohibitive conviction. They want it both ways...as usual.
Welcome to ObamaNation part deuxUtg
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das;158207 Wrote:
panopticonisi;158199 Wrote:how do the denizens of pa2a feel about the firearms prohibition on felons?
IMO it depends on the crime and the persons character and history. I dont think one bad choice makes everyone a bad person. We all make mistakes, we are only human.

My best attempt at a non-anarchy solution is to do away with the overcomplicated layers of law and take a much simpler approach. Once you have done your time and you are released from prison/parole/probation etc, your rights should be restored. All of them. If you are not fit for that, you are not fit to be out walking the streets. The obvious flaw here is our prison system is a revolving door and people are out who should not be (my opinion), and plenty of people are in who should not be (my opinion).

The fact is we will never agree on who should be locked up and who should be out walking the streets. Where there is law, there are those who will seek to abuse it, bend it, and interpret it to push their own agenda. Just a couple years ago I would have argued relentlessly on the subject of many controversial issues that the solution "depends" on some non-rigid criteria that should be evaluated case by case.

These days I think I have just simply lost my faith in humanity. More and more, the laws of nature, survival of the fittest, seem the fairest solution....if there is such a thing.
The law? The law is a human institution...
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Don't forget about Hughes 1986.

As for the prohibition on felons, I think that's bullshit too. First of all it's not effective since guns are available on the black market. And if we are that concerned about a person using a gun for illegal purposes, they should still be in jail. We are too soft on violent crime, and too tough on non-violent victimless crimes. Stop arresting people for getting high, and stop letting armed robbers out of jail. Repeat offenders, death penalty.
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Throwing a cigarette butt on the ground in Chicago is a misdemeanor. 3rd conviction is a felony. Littering shouldn't mean you lose your 2A Rights.
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God's Country;158208 Wrote:
panopticonisi;158199 Wrote:how do the denizens of pa2a feel about the firearms prohibition on felons?

It's total bullshit.
This should be #1 on the list. Fuck NYS and the SAFE act. They want it they can live with it.
Life long prohibitions are the #1 form of gun control, and it's not just felons. Anyone that is so dangerous that the gov can never trust them to so much as touch a firearm doesn't belong outside a jail.
if they are never to be trusted with a firearm then the gov needs to make the case why it's OK for them to live next door to me.
There needs to be a road to restore rights after any prohibitive conviction. They want it both ways...as usual.


I love that argument. (sarcasm)

You really think they let people out of prison because they are "reformed", or because they have "paid their debt" and will no longer behave as criminals?

Give me a break.
"Prison overcrowding" anyone?

No - just because you're "out of prison" you don't get a pass.


I'm good with giving people a "road to restoration", but it would be a very limited, and difficult one.
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well, we all know that career felons intending on using a firearm will get one, right? isn't that why we argue against universal background checks?

so why do we hand over this ONE HUGE STEPPING STONE of individual disarmament to a government known for continually abusing every single piece of authority given to them all so we can just "feel" safe. not be safe. "feel" safe.

lifelong prohibition is exactly the slippery slope that has opened the door for confiscation nationwide.

after all, with so many archaic laws on the books, everyone of us breaks felony level laws each and every day making us felons. we just don't know it.
Stirpot
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Emptymag;158231 Wrote:
God's Country;158208 Wrote:It's total bullshit.
This should be #1 on the list. Fuck NYS and the SAFE act. They want it they can live with it.
Life long prohibitions are the #1 form of gun control, and it's not just felons. Anyone that is so dangerous that the gov can never trust them to so much as touch a firearm doesn't belong outside a jail.
if they are never to be trusted with a firearm then the gov needs to make the case why it's OK for them to live next door to me.
There needs to be a road to restore rights after any prohibitive conviction. They want it both ways...as usual.


I love that argument. (sarcasm)

You really think they let people out of prison because they are "reformed", or because they have "paid their debt" and will no longer behave as criminals?

Give me a break.
"Prison overcrowding" anyone?

No - just because you're "out of prison" you don't get a pass.


I'm good with giving people a "road to restoration", but it would be a very limited, and difficult one.

Ummm no I don't.
Welcome to ObamaNation part deuxUtg
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