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Talking to a liberal friend on FB....said he would never send his daughter to a school where the teachers were armed.

I pointed out the fact that the shooter yesterday broke every law....NO law would have stopped him....NO security system could have held him back...the ONLY thing that would have saved those kids is a bullet from the Principal.

He told me my facts are distorted and that he's sick of the gun debate and that nobody's minds are going to be changed.

Do liberals hate guns just because conservatives like them? Because...its so illogical to think gun control is going to save anybody!!!!!!
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I only look at FB now and then, I expect my friends list to shrink a good bit after some posts.
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I just can't wrap my brain around the fact that people cannot understand that there are some cases where the ONLY defense is SELF defense! Laws don't change criminals! If they did, we wouldn't have any criminals, because we sure as heck have plenty of laws!
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I think I lost a good friend last night due to my disagreeing with him on Facebook. He's a Brit living in Orlando for years and he just won't stop with the anti-gun stuff. I've ignored it up until now but last night I took him to task. He's very thin skinned though and I apparently "made him look bad in front of his friends by treating him like a child." I didn't treat him like a child. I just said he was wrong and then wrote about 1000 words to back it up including the fact that after the fall of France and the Dunkirk evacuation in 1940 US gun owners including the NRA save their butts by sending them rifles, pistols, etc. Apparently using facts is belittling some people.

I think I'm shutting Facebook down.
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So sad that so many are you seem only comfortable being friends with those who agree with you. Such a boring life. My friends are friends. Period. Some are about as anti as you can get. Some vote D without question. While we may debate subjects we also respect each other to allow the other a different point of view.

But then again I don't think they are stupid or evil, just wrong.
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Dave;53695 Wrote:So sad that so many are you seem only comfortable being friends with those who agree with you. Such a boring life. My friends are friends. Period. Some are about as anti as you can get. Some vote D without question. While we may debate subjects we also respect each other to allow the other a different point of view.

But then again I don't think they are stupid or evil, just wrong.

Oh...I'm still friends with him. But I just don't understand how he can think his daughter is safer in a completely unarmed environment after what happened yesterday.
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I have quite a few friends that I know personally that feel this way as well. I used a lot of facts but they ignored these facts and then brought children into the discussion. I have a little one. I got emotional, a little teary eyed, and then very angry as they said that we need to make sure people can not have guns because that is the reason why little children died yesterday.

It was at that point that I believe I lost some friends because I told them that as a father I, and I alone, am the person responsible for the safety of my child. I reminded them that I carry almost daily, but always when leaving the house with my child, and if something should happen my child would be one of the safer children because I would not only die to protect my child, but I would un-apologetically kill some scumbag in order to protect my child. Of course that got some of them thinking, but got others angry that I could kill someone. So I told them that if they did not want to protect their children fine, but if they insist that no one else, or that I, should not be able to, then they are part of the problem behind mass the murder and they could go fuck themselves.

Seldom do I lose my cool, but I will be damned if some gun grabbing asshole is going to tell me that my child is safer if only criminals and cops have guns. I have such a hard time understanding the true anti-folks.

Sorry if this is not so eloquent and very heavy on the ramble factor; I worked the midnight shift with 2 hours of sleep and have not slept since.

Keep your kids safe folks. Even if it means you have to lose asshole friends.

Dave;53695 Wrote:So sad that so many are you seem only comfortable being friends with those who agree with you. Such a boring life. My friends are friends. Period. Some are about as anti as you can get. Some vote D without question. While we may debate subjects we also respect each other to allow the other a different point of view.

But then again I don't think they are stupid or evil, just wrong.

Most of my friends disagree with me and I am fine with that, unless you are actively pushing to make sure I can not protect my family; well that is a different story.
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RugerGirl;53672 Wrote:Do liberals hate guns just because conservatives like them? Because...its so illogical to think gun control is going to save anybody!!!!!!

Your premise is flawed: http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/
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RugerGirl;53672 Wrote:
Talking to a liberal friend on FB....said he would never send his daughter to a school where the teachers were armed.

I pointed out the fact that the shooter yesterday broke every law....NO law would have stopped him....NO security system could have held him back...the ONLY thing that would have saved those kids is a bullet from the Principal.

He told me my facts are distorted and that he's sick of the gun debate and that nobody's minds are going to be changed.


Do liberals hate guns just because conservatives like them? Because...its so illogical to think gun control is going to save anybody!!!!!!

I think that they think if they could outlaw guns no more gun violence will ever happen again, somehow all the guns in the world will just disappear. They live in a fantasy world with pixie dust and fairies.

The trouble with that theory is there are so many guns in existence in the USA they could never confiscate them all, they will always be around. Not to mention as long as the police and military still have guns some of those could find their way into the hands of regular folks.


As we all know too well, outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns.
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gascolator;53712 Wrote:
RugerGirl;53672 Wrote:Do liberals hate guns just because conservatives like them? Because...its so illogical to think gun control is going to save anybody!!!!!!

Your premise is flawed: http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/

There's exceptions to every rule, but in general, there are more gun hating liberals than gun hating conservatives.
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