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GALLUP: MORE AMERICANS FAVOR SCHOOL OFFICIALS HAVING GUNS THAN WEAPON BAN
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But what will they try? The agenda of course, right down your throat

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...Weapon-Ban
A new poll released today by Gallup shows that Americans favor increased security and proactive mental health treatment over gun control. The national poll of a little over 1,000 adults was conducted in the wake of the tragic murders at a Connecticuit school last Friday. As the introduction to the poll says:
Americans are most likely to say that an increased police presence at schools, increased government spending on mental health screening and treatment, and decreased depiction of gun violence in entertainment venues would be effective in preventing mass shootings at schools. Americans rate the potential effectiveness of a ban on assault and semi-automatic guns as fourth on a list of six actions Gallup asked about.
An interesting fact somewhat buried is that when you combine the number of people who said a solution would be 'very effective' and 'somewhat effective', more people favored "arming at least one school offic" officia" over "banning the sale of semi-automatic weapons" by 64 to 63. Although the result is within the margin of error, it indicates that neither media nor political pressure on the gun control issue have made it overwhelmingly popular as a solution with citizens.
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I saw this too. There are also a lot of LEOs saying that teachers need to be allowed to carry as well.

This is our opening to drive the message home that gun bans are foolish and will do nothing to stop a mass murderer. We need to educate as many as we can that the way stop a mass murderer is to meet his/her force with force.

That's why police departments moved away from establishing a perimeter and went to immediate engagement in active shooter scenarios.
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unclejumbo;56842 Wrote:I saw this too. There are also a lot of LEOs saying that teachers need to be allowed to carry as well.

This is our opening to drive the message home that gun bans are foolish and will do nothing to stop a mass murderer. We need to educate as many as we can that the way stop a mass murderer is to meet his/her force with force.

That's why police departments moved away from establishing a perimeter and went to immediate engagement in active shooter scenarios.

The problem is though that the press only want to hear from the various Chiefs and if they happen to be anti they'll get even more press time. You can't educate if they keep blocking your message. Sad
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Along the same lines, a very well written piece by Doug Wylie with quotes from Lt.Col. Dave Grossman...

http://www.policeone.com/school-violence...-is-denial


Quote:“How many kids have been killed by school fire in all of North America in the past 50 years? Kids killed... school fire... North America... 50 years... How many? Zero. That’s right. Not one single kid has been killed by school fire anywhere in North America in the past half a century. Now, how many kids have been killed by school violence?”

So began an extraordinary daylong seminar presented by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, a Pulitzer Prize nominated author, West Point psychology professor, and without a doubt the world’s foremost expert on human aggression and violence. The event, hosted by the California Peace Officers Association, was held in the auditorium of a very large community church about 30 miles from San Francisco, and was attended by more than 250 police officers from around the region.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

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"The problem is though that the press only want to hear from the various Chiefs and if they happen to be anti they'll get even more press time. You can't educate if they keep blocking your message."

Tell me about it. I've been posting on PennLive and several of my posts have been removed. I don't know if it's readers that don't like what I have to say or PennLive itself. It's very frustrating when a several paragraph post just disappears. The last one disappeared while I was responding to a reply.

I think if we get our message out with people we know, on Facebook and other message boards, more people will get on board. Obviously, there is no way to force state run television to cover it but some others will pick it up. Especially if we can drive that narrative home with the Republican house. It will certainly put the "ban guns" crowd on more of a defensive posture since you know it is something they oppose.
He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in wet copper armour shouting "All the Gods are bastards."
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unclejumbo;56850 Wrote:"The problem is though that the press only want to hear from the various Chiefs and if they happen to be anti they'll get even more press time. You can't educate if they keep blocking your message."

Tell me about it. I've been posting on PennLive and several of my posts have been removed. I don't know if it's readers that don't like what I have to say or PennLive itself. It's very frustrating when a several paragraph post just disappears. The last one disappeared while I was responding to a reply.

I think if we get our message out with people we know, on Facebook and other message boards, more people will get on board. Obviously, there is no way to force state run television to cover it but some others will pick it up. Especially if we can drive that narrative home with the Republican house. It will certainly put the "ban guns" crowd on more of a defensive posture since you know it is something they oppose.


^This. Any pro-2A members of Congress need to see us as vocal so they are not left as the sole voice in opposition to gun control. We have to have their backs, and publicly.
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I know more than a few former fence sitters that are now firmly entrenched in the pro gun camp. A couple girls I went to high school with have made the decision to educate themselves and start carrying guns to protect themselves and their kids.
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I guess I don't see what yinz are seeing.

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I see this as more people supporting a gun ban than not. 63% seeing it as at least somewhat effective.

Justin
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63% in the effective categories for gun ban, 64% in the effective categories for armed school officials. It's not huge difference but just the fact the people are considering it tells me they're more willing to look at the whole picture and not just some gun ban.

JustinHEMI;56867 Wrote:I guess I don't see what yinz are seeing.

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I see this as more people supporting a gun ban than not. 63% seeing it as at least somewhat effective.

Justin
He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in wet copper armour shouting "All the Gods are bastards."
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Yeah, but I'm more concerned about the fact that 63% see a gun ban as at least somewhat effective, compared to 36% seeing it as not effective..., ignoring the other categories.

Justin
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