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Geissele trigger for goto rifle
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I just put a Geissele SSA-E in my 18" SPR build and man is it nice, especially compared to the Spikes battle trigger I had in there. I've read that once you try a Geissele trigger you will never go back to using anything else and wow is that ever true.

So moving forward I am now planning to get one of these in all of my ARs. I've been doing quite a bit of reading around and I see a tendency to lean toward the SSA (opposed to SSA-E) for combat/HD rifles. I understand the points made about trigger control under stress and the SSA-E being "too light", at least as well as I believe I can understand it without being in a live fire life on the line situation. Others come back and say a 1lb difference in the second stage is nothing in a high stress situation.

Perhaps I'm just extending an already well hashed out debate but some input and experience from anybody here would be much appreciated. Which of the two triggers would you or have you put in your goto rifle?
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#2
I have 2 geissele. one in my cmp rifle, Hi-Speed National Match - Service Rifle Trigger. The other in my sbr, its a SD3G. All i can say is OMFG, Wow. Amazing!
I am going to put Geissele in my other AR's

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#3
What are the specs if you know off hand? Trigger weight, price, ease of operation?

I have been looking into getting a better trigger, not sure which route to go. The factory PSA in my lpk is a little gritty, and dang near impossible to bumpfire for shots and giggles.

I just don't like putting a $200 trigger, in a $600 rifle.
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Connal;33796 Wrote:What are the specs if you know off hand? Trigger weight, price, ease of operation?

I have been looking into getting a better trigger, not sure which route to go. The factory PSA in my lpk is a little gritty, and dang near impossible to bumpfire for shots and giggles.

I just don't like putting a $200 trigger, in a $600 rifle.

I got a nice CMC trigger. It's a drop in, trigger pull set at 3.5lbs. Greatest upgrade ever IMHO.
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I have experience with most, if not all, of the Geissele triggers. The thing with triggers is that it is a very personal thing and one trigger may not feel "right" to another shooter. I've had people that shot my rifles with the SSA and said it was too heavy and some that shot the SSA-E that said it was too light. Anyone that has had significant time behind multiple triggers will tell you that 1 lb does make a difference.

My first trigger was the SSA and it was a great step-up from the stock trigger. I went through the whole gambit of triggers before I settled on the SSA-E. The reason I settled on the SSA-E was because I was able to consistently pull through the first stage without breaking the second stage; essentially prepping the trigger for my controlled shots.

If you feel that you want to try a lighter spring in the SSA, give the folks at Geissele a call. They may be able to send out a lighter spring for you.

Bumpfire - this can easily be done with the SD3G trigger. Very smooth and short trigger pull and very short reset. This is the trigger to get if you want to put a lot of rounds down range but at the cost of accuracy.

Precision rifles - if you're looking for a great trigger for a precision AR, you'd be hard press to beat the SD-E which is the flat trigger version of the SSA-E. Some people can't spend the money on the hi-speed match triggers or they don't like the fact that there are adjustment screws. If you fall into one of those two buckets, than the SD-E is worth looking at.

Just for full disclosure - I do photography work for Geissele and am friends with Bill. I only have experience with Geissele triggers aside from stock triggers.
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#6
Personally I like the off-shoot ALG Defense triggers. I'm not shooting 3-gun and have no need for a $200 trigger. The $65 ACT trigger is very sweet in my opinion.
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#7
I have Geiselle SSA triggers in my ARs. I love them better than any trigger I've tried in a battle rifle.

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Connal;33796 Wrote:What are the specs if you know off hand? Trigger weight, price, ease of operation?

I have been looking into getting a better trigger, not sure which route to go. The factory PSA in my lpk is a little gritty, and dang near impossible to bumpfire for shots and giggles.

I just don't like putting a $200 trigger, in a $600 rifle.

The SSA-E is 2.3lb in the first stage and 1.2lb on the second. It's advertised as breaking like a candy cane, and in my dry firing last night I can say that is 100% accurate. $210

The SSA is 2.5lb in the first stage and 2lb on the second. They say it breaks like a carrot. $180

RXM;33879 Wrote:I have experience with most, if not all, of the Geissele triggers. The thing with triggers is that it is a very personal thing and one trigger may not feel "right" to another shooter. I've had people that shot my rifles with the SSA and said it was too heavy and some that shot the SSA-E that said it was too light. Anyone that has had significant time behind multiple triggers will tell you that 1 lb does make a difference.

My first trigger was the SSA and it was a great step-up from the stock trigger. I went through the whole gambit of triggers before I settled on the SSA-E. The reason I settled on the SSA-E was because I was able to consistently pull through the first stage without breaking the second stage; essentially prepping the trigger for my controlled shots.

If you feel that you want to try a lighter spring in the SSA, give the folks at Geissele a call. They may be able to send out a lighter spring for you.

Bumpfire - this can easily be done with the SD3G trigger. Very smooth and short trigger pull and very short reset. This is the trigger to get if you want to put a lot of rounds down range but at the cost of accuracy.

Precision rifles - if you're looking for a great trigger for a precision AR, you'd be hard press to beat the SD-E which is the flat trigger version of the SSA-E. Some people can't spend the money on the hi-speed match triggers or they don't like the fact that there are adjustment screws. If you fall into one of those two buckets, than the SD-E is worth looking at.

Just for full disclosure - I do photography work for Geissele and am friends with Bill. I only have experience with Geissele triggers aside from stock triggers.

I really like the way the SSA-E feels. Right away when thinking about my other rifles I want the same feel. I strongly favor the sharp break and my concern is that I will not like the softer break of the SSA.
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#9
The descriptions that Geissele has for their trigger's break characteristics are pretty much spot on. The break of the SSA is not horrible by any means. The SSA is the non-selective fire of the SSF used by special forces so it is a proven combat trigger. If you like the crisp break of the SSA-E but want a heavier pull, call up Geissele to see if they can send you a heavier spring. Rumor has it that their customer service is one of the best.
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RXM;33879 Wrote:Bumpfire - this can easily be done with the SD3G trigger. Very smooth and short trigger pull and very short reset. This is the trigger to get if you want to put a lot of rounds down range but at the cost of accuracy.

I was very pleasantly surprised by this trigger. I bought it for speed, and willingly gave up the precision of a two stage.

I sat down at the bench to sight it in. While the trigger has no break but a "roll off a cliff" configuration, it's still easy to do precision shooting with. The pull is so smooth, short and light that it isn't a hindrance.
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