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das;24330 Wrote:Now Val your getting way off the point. your talking about us in context of the entire universe. You are more than likely absolutely correct, the planet will be here after we are long gone.

That's how i look at things like this...in the abstract. Because in reality, it is actually factually correct to state that, ultimately, nothing that happens here matters at all.

Quote:But the fact remains we has a race of humans now not only can and do effect the environment in detrimental ways but also posses the knowledge and power to destroy the entire planet, think full out global nuclear war. Humans have power to destroy the planet at will.

All out global nuclear war would not destroy the planet. If Yellowstone ever goes off, it will unleash millions of times more energy than the entire combined nuclear arsenals of every nation on Earth.

Do some reading about Volcanoes. A big volcano has orders of magnitude more destructive force than every bomb on the planet combined. Several such eruptions have occurred throughout history.

Yet....here we are.

I do agree we should protect the environment to suit or needs. It furthers the species. But regardless, the planet would be fine one way or another.

The only thing capable of destroying this or any planet is the Universe itself.
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Valorius;24353 Wrote:
das;24330 Wrote:Now Val your getting way off the point. your talking about us in context of the entire universe. You are more than likely absolutely correct, the planet will be here after we are long gone.

That's how i look at things like this...in the abstract. Because in reality, it is actually factually correct to state that, ultimately, nothing that happens here matters at all.

Quote:But the fact remains we has a race of humans now not only can and do effect the environment in detrimental ways but also posses the knowledge and power to destroy the entire planet, think full out global nuclear war. Humans have power to destroy the planet at will.

All out global nuclear war would not destroy the planet. If Yellowstone ever goes off, it will unleash millions of times more energy than the entire combined nuclear arsenals of every nation on Earth.

Do some reading about Volcanoes. A big volcano has orders of magnitude more destructive force than every bomb on the planet combined. Several such eruptions have occurred throughout history.

Yet....here we are.

I do agree we should protect the environment to suit or needs. It furthers the species. But regardless, the planet would be fine one way or another.

The only thing capable of destroying this or any planet is the Universe itself.
If by planet you mean a peice of matter in space then I cant argue with you but if you are talking about a planet that humans can exist on then I disagree. The human race could very easily make this planet uninhabitual.
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#23
I don't think oil is the remains of dinosaurs and plant matter.

I think it is/was produced by the Earth heating/boiling/vaporizing existing minerals and the gooey goodness then gets pushed to where we can find it.
Some people need to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936976021/ref=...jwbZH1GAZF

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39Flathead;24517 Wrote:I don't think oil is the remains of dinosaurs and plant matter.

I think it is/was produced by the Earth heating/boiling/vaporizing existing minerals and the gooey goodness then gets pushed to where we can find it.

I am not qualified to say what oil is made from, but it is the prevailing theory that it is dinosaur remains, hence the term "Dino oil."

Das, i do not disagree with you, but keep in mind an earth uninhabitable to humans is by no means "destroyed." For huge portions of Earth's history the planet was uninhabitable by humans.
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39Flathead;24517 Wrote:I don't think oil is the remains of dinosaurs and plant matter.

I think it is/was produced by the Earth heating/boiling/vaporizing existing minerals and the gooey goodness then gets pushed to where we can find it.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say but :

Oil is formed from and composed of organic compounds, primarily hydrocarbons from sedimentary deposits and kerogen (organic material within sedimentary rock), not igneous rock.

You are correct that oil is pressure cooked, but organic material (primarily algae and plankton from oceanic bed deposits) must be present within or stratified with sedimentary rock for oil to form.

There are very few dinosaurs in dino oil, but there is very old green slime.
The Muffin Man, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2082.
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The Muffin Man;24556 Wrote:
39Flathead;24517 Wrote:I don't think oil is the remains of dinosaurs and plant matter.

I think it is/was produced by the Earth heating/boiling/vaporizing existing minerals and the gooey goodness then gets pushed to where we can find it.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say but :

Oil is formed from and composed of organic compounds, primarily hydrocarbons from sedimentary deposits and kerogen (organic material within sedimentary rock), not igneous rock.

You are correct that oil is pressure cooked, but organic material (primarily algae and plankton from oceanic bed deposits) must be present within or stratified with sedimentary rock for oil to form.

There are very few dinosaurs in dino oil, but there is very old green slime.
It is still unproven, hundreds of years later, that oil comes just from organic material.
I think that some oils and gas have been here since the earth was created.
Just as the sun is burning up it's gasses, gasses that have been there since it's creation.
Some people need to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936976021/ref=...jwbZH1GAZF

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