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Gold Star Family: SEAL Team 6 Killed by Rules of Engagement
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/...engagement

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When the chopper went down, the air support did not fire to take out the enemy because there might be friendlies in the building and the ROE made no allowances for that. The military present at the operation watched helplessly as the chinook went down and landed under heavy fire, killing everyone on it.
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War is dangerous.
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(09-14-2012, 11:36 AM)Valorius Wrote: War is dangerous.


Especially when you're a duck in a pond.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
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Those guys were all volunteers, they knew the ROE going in. 

Those ROE are designed to prevent killing lots of innocent civilians.

Just envison the SEALs as cops and the civilians over there as US citizens, and the ROE are a lot easier to deal with. In most cases, restrictive ROE are a necessary evil to safeguard the lives of innocents. Sometimes they don't make sense, but again, these guys are all volunteers.

The bottom line is that war is dangerous.
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(09-14-2012, 11:58 AM)Valorius Wrote: Those guys were all volunteers, they knew the ROE going in. 

Those ROE are designed to prevent killing lots of innocent civilians.

Just envison the SEALs as cops and the civilians over there as US citizens, and the ROE are a lot easier to deal with. In most cases, restrictive ROE are a necessary evil to safeguard the lives of innocents. Sometimes they don't make sense, but again, these guys are all volunteers.

The bottom line is that war is dangerous.


Respectfully disagree. It's not war if you can't protect yourself or fight back.

War is hell, I prefer we send the enemy there.

The ROE's are only what they are because Politicians now are directing the wars from behind a desk.
Time for the Military to direct the wars and throw the PC crap in the can.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” -- Thomas Jefferson
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Just remember: The volunteers on the mission felt the risks were personally acceptable.

Taking extreme risks and killing or dying in battle is what elite troops do. They're all volunteers. Believe me, they know better than any of us how much danger they're in. And they still do it. 

It's who they are.
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(09-14-2012, 12:05 PM)Valorius Wrote: Just remember: The volunteers on the mission felt the risks were personally acceptable.

Taking extreme risks and killing or dying in battle is what elite troops do. They're all volunteers. Believe me, they know better than any of us how much danger they're in. And they still do it. 

It's who they are.


I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. This Odministration has gone over the top with ROE's. No ammo for marines at the embassy AFTER credible threats a week prior.

That is absurd. I guess that's how you win a Nobel without doing anything.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” -- Thomas Jefferson
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I agree with you about the Marines not having ammo. It's the same thing that happened in Beirut in 1983. 

If history teaches us any lesson, it is that man forgets all of histories lessons.
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(09-14-2012, 12:17 PM)Valorius Wrote: I agree with you about the Marines not having ammo. It's the same thing that happened in Beirut in 1983. 

If history teaches us any lesson, it is that man forgets all of histories lessons.


Collateral damage is a part of war, unfortunately. If you make limiting CD more important than executing the war it's suicide.

Note: If BHO or HRC were in that embassy, you can bet your sweet ass there'd be Marines with ammo.

Harry Truman got it right.....Defeat them and defeat them right now and you SAVE more lives than dragging it out.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” -- Thomas Jefferson
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#10
Defeat who exactly? Define victory in Afghanistan/Pakistan.

Seems to me like we're just spinning our wheels over there while spending truly MASSIVE amounts of money to no particular end.

Forget the ROE, the war itself is pointless.
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