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Good holster for my M&P 9?
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Here's pics of mine:

Safariland ALS, best for OC
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Supertuck. You can tuck the shirt in between the clips and the holster, so it's completely hidden.
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Tagua. It's not broken in yet, which is why the belt is sticking out in the back. Drawing is more difficult with the thumb brea; I need to practice with this one.
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Don Hume. This is my favorite for OWB/concealed.
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ShaulWolf;75650 Wrote:The thumb break is that strip of material that covers the back of the slide, usually held in place by a metal snap. It prevents the gun from being pulled/falling out without the user or someone else first unsnapping it.

There are also different options for OWB holsters: belt and paddle. Belt holsters have the holes that the belt goes through and stay secured until you remove your belt. Paddle holsters have the folded over portion that allows you to slide the holster on over the belt.

If you plan to conceal the pistol, your best bet would be an IWB holster. However, it can also be done with an OWB, which also allows you to more easily open carry as well.

If you do OC, I'd recommend something with more than just a retention screw. Gun grabs are few and far in between, but it's an extra piece of mind. It also keeps the firearm better secured if you're active a lot with it on.

Strong side holsters on the hip are always difficult when you're seated. You'll need something with a moderate forward cant, or go with another option if you're sitting for extended periods of time while carrying. Cross draw and shoulder holsters tend to do better for vehicles, though someone else can chime in for those options.

Since you want to mount a light on your pistol, your best bet would likely be Safariland.

I'll note that if you go to Natchez's website, you can find a DeSantis holster for around $40.

Thanks, it seems for my needs a paddle holster would be better as it seems that I can slip it right off my belt when necessary. However I had one of those clip on cell phone cases and it ended up slipping off my belt, my cell phone got crushed by a car as a result. So I would hope since it's holding a firearm this "Paddle Type" holster is a lot less chintzy than the cell phone belt clips. I am open towards IWB holsters but are they made for full sized pistols? Plus I have to wonder about comfort, I am not really fat but I am 215 pounds and have a bit of a stomach.

The Unknown87;76011 Wrote:
LifeInPa;75559 Wrote:That was helpful, thank you. I am on the verge of just ordering the Safariland 6378 based on what I have researched. My only concern right now is fitting into the tight seat of my coupe with a pistol mounted on my hip. I wonder if it's something I can quickly detach from my belt and throw into my center console while driving? As for carrying my M&P I never carried it before nor have I ever carried any pistol on my hip. This will be my first time so I will have to experiment. I am thinking 4 o'clock would be the best position but I wonder how it will work while sitting down? Huh


The safariland I struggle to get that thing on, I only worry about taking it off once I get back. In the car sitting, it can be odd. Gotta change how you sit depending on how you get it set up.



Also for anyone else in this thread looking. I have contacted safariland. It IS possible to make a duty belt, designed for a 2+ inch belt, fit a 1.5 inch belt.

Quote:Dear Mr. The Unknown 87,
If your duty holster has our universal 3 hole screw pattern in the shape of a capital T then you can attach a concealment duty belt loop which will make it ride higher, however if you do this this will negate the level of retention the holster is tested at. The holsters that are deigned to accommodate a 1.5" belt are usually our concealment holsters and those are not tested for levels of retention. If you have any other questions please feel free to contact me.


Thank You,
Cynthia Olivar
Customer Care Rep II


I have that attachment already. I would just need to buy a duty holster that fits the M&P and light, and attach the belt loop thing to it and be done. Not sure how that effects the retention.

It seems no matter what I chose I will have to make a compromise somewhere. I think I will take my chances with the Safariland. Do you know if the 6378 has adequate retention? Huh

Philadelphia Patriot;76026 Wrote:If you would like to go the leather route, then I highly suggest Aker holsters. I think they make the best leather holsters (especially the flatsider) out there. The Aker 167 Nightguard is something to consider if you choose to go leather.

Aker 167 Nightguard Holster

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I really like that, I will have to think hard on this since it's so close in price to the Safariland.

Warpt762x39;76047 Wrote:I just got a lightbearing holster for my XDm from Off the Grid Concepts out of California. It's called the Nocturnal Sidewinder and I'm loving mine. It fits the gun perfectly. It's not so tight as to interfere with a draw but it's snug enough that there is zero wobble. You can swap the belt loops for MALICE clips and there is an option to make it so you can carry with or without the light. They have probably a dozen color combos from baaic black to ones called Dead Bird and Ninja Turtle. Plus they make spare mag carriers for pistols and ARs. They custom mold sheaths for any knife you can think of. They have carriers for tactical lights, handcuffs, Zippos, Skoal cans and even a condom carrier called the Dynamic Intervention Contraceptive Karrier or D.I.C.K.

They make some nice stuff, thanks. The price is close to the Safariland too so that will be on the serious consideration list.
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scruff;76041 Wrote:
LifeInPa;75559 Wrote:My only concern right now is fitting into the tight seat of my coupe with a pistol mounted on my hip. I wonder if it's something I can quickly detach from my belt and throw into my center console while driving? As for carrying my M&P I never carried it before nor have I ever carried any pistol on my hip. This will be my first time so I will have to experiment. I am thinking 4 o'clock would be the best position but I wonder how it will work while sitting down? Huh

I also have a coupe. The seat bolsters that wrap around on either side definitely make it difficult. I can guarantee that the first time you sit down in your car, you'll say "WTF? This will NEVER work!" But don't worry, it's not as bad as it seems. You may have to shift the holster forward or back on your belt, or adjust the cant of the holster (the tilt forward or backward) if it's adjustable. It will take a while to get used to it.

You may not want to drive with the gun in the holster at 4:00, though, as it will be very hard to draw the gun if you need it. You can keep another holster in the car to hold it while you're driving, although the empty holster on your belt will still need to be adjusted properly so it won't be uncomfortable. You could take the holster off your belt, but that's a pain too. Especially the Safariland paddle - it's hard enough to get off that I don't think I could do it while sitting.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth. You're probably feeling a little overwhelmed with advice right now. The only way to do it is to jump in and start trying things! You'll learn really quickly what works and what doesn't.

scruff;76050 Wrote:Here's pics of mine:

Safariland ALS, best for OC
[Image: 2mzcm61.jpg]

Supertuck. You can tuck the shirt in between the clips and the holster, so it's completely hidden.
[Image: 2eullio.jpg]

Tagua. It's not broken in yet, which is why the belt is sticking out in the back. Drawing is more difficult with the thumb brea; I need to practice with this one.
[Image: 2yxjaet.jpg]

Don Hume. This is my favorite for OWB/concealed.
[Image: 33kwv3c.jpg]

Exactly, I have the same type of seats in my car and the seat really hugs you. When you drive with a holster which position do you keep it at? It seems that I am limited to the 3-4 o'clock position. If I understand the paddle type right it seems to be able to slip off the belt without taking off the belt. That might be best suited for my needs as I can pull it off before getting into the car and put it into my center console. I am indeed a bit overwhelmed by the subject and decided to take a day so I can absorb the information. I think I will take my chances with a Safariland Paddle Type holster. Hopefully that type is easy to get off. By the way I appreciate the pictures, that helps me get a better idea of what I am getting into.

morpheus6d9;76045 Wrote:check out http://www.phlster.com/

I have 2 holsters from him and a mag carrier he has a disclaimer on website but you get the holsters before time

Thank you for another great option. Smile
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LifeInPa;76398 Wrote:Exactly, I have the same type of seats in my car and the seat really hugs you. When you drive with a holster which position do you keep it at? It seems that I am limited to the 3-4 o'clock position. If I understand the paddle type right it seems to be able to slip off the belt without taking off the belt. That might be best suited for my needs as I can pull it off before getting into the car and put it into my center console. I am indeed a bit overwhelmed by the subject and decided to take a day so I can absorb the information. I think I will take my chances with a Safariland Paddle Type holster. Hopefully that type is easy to get off. By the way I appreciate the pictures, that helps me get a better idea of what I am getting into.

Yes, I like to carry at 4:00, and that's what works with my car seats too.

With the Safariland, holster, the holster itself has a couple of hooks that hook under the bottom of the belt. The paddle also has a hook that hooks under the belt from inside the pants. So when you take the holster off, you have to spread the paddle and holster apart to get the hooks past the belt. My Safariland paddle is extremely stiff, so there's no chance that the holster could come loose off the belt when I draw my gun. But that makes it extremely difficult to take off, requiring two hands, with one hand down my pants. Not something I'd want to do outside the car, or something I could do when sitting down. I've only had it for a few weeks, so maybe it will loosen up, and maybe I'll figure out an easier way to take it off.

Don't feel like you have to have all the answers before you start. Just jump right in! You'll learn more in one week from carrying than you'll learn from a bunch of our posts.
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Got a quick question for M&P9/40 owners who happen to own an M&P22 as well. Does the 22 fit the 9/40 holsters? I haven't seen one specifically for the 22 in stores anywhere but IIRC they are supposed to be pretty close to the same as far as physical dimensions.
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The 6378 has pretty good retention. Safariland doesn't rate it a "Level 2" because it's not a duty holster. I however feel like it has the same than the serpa.


It does slightly move UP and DOWN in the holster. I have not tried the holster in a paddle set up, I want to. I however Believe I lost the hook that catches the underside of the belt. Not sure if thats important.
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Xavier;76863 Wrote:Got a quick question for M&P9/40 owners who happen to own an M&P22 as well. Does the 22 fit the 9/40 holsters? I haven't seen one specifically for the 22 in stores anywhere but IIRC they are supposed to be pretty close to the same as far as physical dimensions.

I have a Blade-tec that I run in IDPA and both my 9 and 22 fit the same in it
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scruff;76857 Wrote:
LifeInPa;76398 Wrote:Exactly, I have the same type of seats in my car and the seat really hugs you. When you drive with a holster which position do you keep it at? It seems that I am limited to the 3-4 o'clock position. If I understand the paddle type right it seems to be able to slip off the belt without taking off the belt. That might be best suited for my needs as I can pull it off before getting into the car and put it into my center console. I am indeed a bit overwhelmed by the subject and decided to take a day so I can absorb the information. I think I will take my chances with a Safariland Paddle Type holster. Hopefully that type is easy to get off. By the way I appreciate the pictures, that helps me get a better idea of what I am getting into.

Yes, I like to carry at 4:00, and that's what works with my car seats too.

With the Safariland, holster, the holster itself has a couple of hooks that hook under the bottom of the belt. The paddle also has a hook that hooks under the belt from inside the pants. So when you take the holster off, you have to spread the paddle and holster apart to get the hooks past the belt. My Safariland paddle is extremely stiff, so there's no chance that the holster could come loose off the belt when I draw my gun. But that makes it extremely difficult to take off, requiring two hands, with one hand down my pants. Not something I'd want to do outside the car, or something I could do when sitting down. I've only had it for a few weeks, so maybe it will loosen up, and maybe I'll figure out an easier way to take it off.

Don't feel like you have to have all the answers before you start. Just jump right in! You'll learn more in one week from carrying than you'll learn from a bunch of our posts.

I am also concerned with doing damage to my car carrying it while seated. I used to keep my wallet in my right pocket and after a brief period of time I rubbed some of the material off the leather boot on my E-Brake, which I need to replace in the Spring now. I don't know if you mentioned it before but is the Kydex material flexible enough that if I take my pistol out and sit in the seat that the empty holster will flex and not damage my interior?

Thanks for the continued advice, I will just order a Safari Paddle Holster and see how it works. I think you guys gave me enough theoretical knowledge to get me started. When I order my holster and get it I will post a review/pictures.

The Unknown87;76930 Wrote:The 6378 has pretty good retention. Safariland doesn't rate it a "Level 2" because it's not a duty holster. I however feel like it has the same than the serpa.


It does slightly move UP and DOWN in the holster. I have not tried the holster in a paddle set up, I want to. I however Believe I lost the hook that catches the underside of the belt. Not sure if thats important.

Well I think I will take Scruff's advice and just dive in, the only way to get experience is to dive into it. I will check again to see if they have a similar holster that is "Duty Rated" before making the purchase.
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Kydex is very inflexible. It's a hard plastic.
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LifeInPa;77048 Wrote:Well I think I will take Scruff's advice and just dive in, the only way to get experience is to dive into it. I will check again to see if they have a similar holster that is "Duty Rated" before making the purchase.

If you order it try Atlantic Tactical

http://www.atlantictactical.com/product/...RWwYWf4K1w


They ship same day, and depending on where you are, it will be there in a day or two. I got mine from there after another placed messed around with my order and making me wait.

6378 comes with paddle and belt. The belt slots have a piece of plastic keeping it at either 1.5 inch and 1.75. I just worry about that breaking because then the belt sizing would be messed up.
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