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Emoticon - Nothing Dave said indicated in any way that he was disagreeing with your assessment that the cops were overreaching and the women gave information they didn't need to say.

What he did say echoed something I often think - to invoke Godwin's Law so quickly ALWAYS does the opposite of what you mean to do. It's like the boy who cried "wolf" - after awhile you stop paying attention. I, for one, would love to see a few threads with serious debate and no mention of Hitler, Nazis, or storm troopers.

Spell it out. Giving in to demands without questioning or invoking the right to silence always erodes our rights in some ways. But it is not nearly equivalent to regular citizens being taken to the death chambers with full complicity of their fellow citizens.
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mingomom;119854 Wrote:Emoticon - Nothing Dave said indicated in any way that he was disagreeing with your assessment that the cops were overreaching and the women gave information they didn't need to say.

What he did say echoed something I often think - to invoke Godwin's Law so quickly ALWAYS does the opposite of what you mean to do. It's like the boy who cried "wolf" - after awhile you stop paying attention. I, for one, would love to see a few threads with serious debate and no mention of Hitler, Nazis, or storm troopers.

Spell it out. Giving in to demands without questioning or invoking the right to silence always erodes our rights in some ways. But it is not nearly equivalent to regular citizens being taken to the death chambers with full complicity of their fellow citizens.

These videos of citizens being harassed by law abiding citizens are almost a daily occurrence and are only increasing as time goes on. If you don't think we're headed directly to a full on authoritarian police state I'd like to outline a few facts recently:

- In 1980 we had 3000 SWAT raids. In 2011? 70,000.

- No-knock warrants likewise are becoming common place and it's getting innocent people killed.

- Farmers have been held at gunpoint for hours for the crime of selling unpasteurized milk.

- Happen to be carrying cash? The police can just seize it now and keep it in limbo until you can prove how you got it because you're guilty until proven innocent in this country today.

- Want to move more than $10,000? The IRS has to know about it.

- After the Boston Bombing the police went door to door kicking doors in looking for the bombers without warrants without any probable cause of the bomber actually being in any of these houses.

- You can be arrested for protesting outside "free speech zones" in some instances.

- The authorities can indefinitely detain citizens if they so choose without a trial if you are accused of being a terrorist or providing aid to a terrorist whereby "aid" is amorphously defined.

- We are not allowed to know how the government is interpreting the Patriot act, because it's classified.

-The government is currently seeking approval for warrant-less cellphone searches and has been known to be doing this already.

-The data from our cellphones is already being captured without warrants.

- The police can take your DNA and keep it if you are the suspect of a capital crime even if you turn out to be innocent.

-The TSA and homeland security are expanding their tentacles all over this country to setup checkpoints at other transporation and public venues. They also actively dehumanize us with their scans and groping.

- We have border checkpoints far inside the United States where citizens are harassed on a regular basis.

- Post something someone doesn't like on facebook without making any direct threats? Be prepared to be raided or committed against your will.

- The government is actively targeting people for investigation who do not share the same political views as the regime as seen with the most recent IRS scandal. The government is also perusing elaborate entrapment schemes to net individuals the regime considers to be dangerous for one reason or another.

-Under Obamacare our health data is going to be collected about our personal activities and lifestyle choices that are not pertinent to the office visit. (Why did my GP ask me if I owned a gun for example last time I got a physical?)

-The gun control agenda is being pushed like mad and we are ever increasingly made to jump though flaming hoops to exercise one of our fundamental rights.

-The government is actively trying to get Americans to spy on their neighbors and get children to rat on their parents.

-The government tells your business who you can and can't do business with.

That's just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head that I've read in just the past few years!!!

Rome wasn't built in a day. The police state won't be either. With the path things are headed now I can easily see there being a day in the coming years where espousing pro-2A beliefs could get you investigated and detained as a possible domestic terrorist. If you think we aren't already living under a soft police state as we speak I suggest you take a closer look at what is happening in your immediate surroundings and see how the rampant over-reach of the police and government are getting so outlandish that when you share the verified truth with people they no longer believe you. Many many dictators and war criminals are elected by the people initially and things get slowly more out of control over time. That is happening right here right now as we speak.
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