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So...do any of you carry knowing that somebody local out there has a grudge against you, and while they may or may not have a LTCF you know they own weapons?

If that is the case, do you ever see that person around town? Are you on heightened awareness if so?

And as an extreme case, how would you know ahead of time if someone chooses violence against you? Anyone who chooses to shoot someone always has the upper hand because they have the knowledge that they are about to draw, while you do not have the knowledge that you are about to have to defend.

Just thoughts.
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1) Yep, although I am not sure if those people have firearms... although I suspect they can pretty easily get them if they wanted.

2) Yes and yes.

3) There are general signs that an attack might be coming or is immanent - although these signs best work against a physical attack. As far as an attack with a firearm against an aforementioned person, if I see him/them, I will immediately scan them for weapons and watch them like a hawk. If it seems like they are targeting me and might be armed, I will take appropriate action.


Is there a back story here or is this just hypothetical?
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#3
If you think they "might be armed" what is appropriate action? You can't show your gun before they do, because that can get you into legal trouble especially if they end up not having a gun, right?

It is both hypothetical and has a back story. haha. I have a genuine concern, although my husband thinks my concern is far out in left field. But depending on how events unfold over the next several months, we will see.
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RugerGirl;65344 Wrote:If you think they "might be armed" what is appropriate action? You can't show your gun before they do, because that can get you into legal trouble especially if they end up not having a gun, right?

Yes, and no. If you genuinely feel that you are in danger, and you draw your sidearm, it doesn't matter if they have a gun, a knife, or a golf club. Now I am not a lawyer, so your mileage may vary. I wouldn't recommend drawing though, unless you had great concerns.

There are a few people out there, that somehow don't care for me a great deal. Saw one of them a few weeks ago at the store. I told the wife he was there, and kept one eye on him.

He didn't seem happy to see us. But he knows I carry at least one sidearm. And I don't think he would try anything in public. He might, but I don't think he is that stupid.
This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. -Ben Franklin
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#5
Between this and PAFOA forums I've pissed a few people off, more so on PAFOA, that have threatened me, because they got banned, of all things. I've even had one kind of stalk me for a while, saying he'd pop-up at one of the meet and greets, and kept signing up as different people, eventually giving themselves away as to who they really were.

Talk about a disadvantage, an anonymous user on the internet, I'm not the paranoid type, my photo and life is all over the internet, I've had total strangers recognize me and say hello, but I have to say I avoided meet and greets for a few months because of it. At my gun club, which I've pretty much said I'm at on certain days, I was watching everyone for a suspicious move. That's all you can do really, hope that your situational awareness is at a peak at all times, which it should be anyway.

There is no crystal ball unfortunately, you'll never know ahead of time unless someone tells you about it. Anyone can be caught off guard.

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#6
Mental warfare can be more rewarding...suspicion of an act might do more than the act itself...and unexpected acts for diversion.
But do it in such a way as not to bring attention to yourself...but at the same time so they know it's you.

They'll want to be as far away from your game as they can get. Big Grin


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After seeing Bill's post let me be clear...you have to directly intervene with my life first for me to fuck with you.

People who go after people for stupid reasons is retarded...who has the time for that?
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RugerGirl;65344 Wrote:If you think they "might be armed" what is appropriate action? You can't show your gun before they do, because that can get you into legal trouble especially if they end up not having a gun, right?

It is both hypothetical and has a back story. haha. I have a genuine concern, although my husband thinks my concern is far out in left field. But depending on how events unfold over the next several months, we will see.

If they might be armed (giving off tell-tale signs of carrying) and it looks to me like I'm their target, I'm gonna disappear asap while making great use of cover. If they make a move that looks like they are drawing, I'm drawing. It's not illegal to draw a firearm in PA without shooting, and I have enough documentation of the relevant incidents as well as enough training that I should be able to pretty easily explain why it is I did what I did.

If needed, but the circumstances are a little different than above, there is also always the option of drawing but keeping the firearm in a pocket while maintaining a grip on it. This could be a little faster than drawing normally, but is less likely to scare any by-standers.

If it is something less overt on their part, my shirt may "accidentally" ride up, exposing my firearm, and I would watch how they respond. Either way, I wouldn't let them out of my sight, and I would also watch to see if they brought any "friends" with them.

One time I ran into one of these characters, he was more surprised to see me than I was him (I was no where near where he is normally at, so I wasn't really expecting him to be there), and I don't think he could have left there quick enough...
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#8
Yes.

The company I used to work for was targeted by left-wingers who made death threats because of the research we did. I have had nuts show up at my house.

I was also threatened by a mentally unbalanced supervisee where I currently work.

Major reason I now carry on a regular basis.
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soberbyker;65365 Wrote:Between this and PAFOA forums I've pissed a few people off, more so on PAFOA, that have threatened me, because they got banned, of all things. I've even had one kind of stalk me for a while, saying he'd pop-up at one of the meet and greets, and kept signing up as different people, eventually giving themselves away as to who they really were.

Talk about a disadvantage, an anonymous user on the internet, I'm not the paranoid type, my photo and life is all over the internet, I've had total strangers recognize me and say hello, but I have to say I avoided meet and greets for a few months because of it. At my gun club, which I've pretty much said I'm at on certain days, I was watching everyone for a suspicious move. That's all you can do really, hope that your situational awareness is at a peak at all times, which it should be anyway.

There is no crystal ball unfortunately, you'll never know ahead of time unless someone tells you about it. Anyone can be caught off guard.

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I don't understand how you got people banned at pafoa.
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nomad;67144 Wrote:I don't understand how you got people banned at pafoa.

Since I brought it up I'll say this, some people let their emotions get the better of themselves and violated the rules.
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