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I've noticed after I make posts like 2 minutes later 10 or 15 "guests" will be viewing the post. Has anyone looked up the IP's of some of these guests to see if these spiders, bots, or lurkers?
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Emoticon;100460 Wrote:I've noticed after I make posts like 2 minutes later 10 or 15 "guests" will be viewing the post. Has anyone looked up the IP's of some of these guests to see if these spiders, bots, or lurkers?

I used to look some of them up, back when the forum was new. That was a boring time. You know it's not like you can tell a whole lot from an IP address sometimes, although many were coming back to Google, Yahoo, etc. Many were coming from international locations, most likely spam bots.

Our guest to user ratio has been very high on the guest side right from the beginning.
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Pretty sure the "guests" are the Google bots/web crawlers....not really humans, although some could be humans. Most are probably the search engines.
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Emoticon;100460 Wrote:I've noticed after I make posts like 2 minutes later 10 or 15 "guests" will be viewing the post. Has anyone looked up the IP's of some of these guests to see if these spiders, bots, or lurkers?

Maybe it's your Slovenian fan club . . .

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I used to admin a forum a while back and I would see bots all the time, but it would only be like 2 or 3 at a time. It just surprises me how many appear to be gravitating to this board at a time.
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Emoticon;100460 Wrote:Has anyone looked up the IP's of some of these guests to see if these spiders, bots, or lurkers?

How are you going to do that? A guest does not sign in and if he/she can't post there is no IP trace possible.
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D10;100628 Wrote:
Emoticon;100460 Wrote:Has anyone looked up the IP's of some of these guests to see if these spiders, bots, or lurkers?

How are you going to do that? A guest does not sign in and if he/she can't post there is no IP trace possible.

I'm not sure how far you want to go with an IP "trace", but all of the 42 guests viewing PA2A when i checked had an IP address attached to them. In the past i could research these with an IP lookup separately on the web, and thats when i began to see just how many search and spam bots there were.

Maybe you and i are thinking different things when talking about "tracing"?
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D10;100628 Wrote:
Emoticon;100460 Wrote:Has anyone looked up the IP's of some of these guests to see if these spiders, bots, or lurkers?

How are you going to do that? A guest does not sign in and if he/she can't post there is no IP trace possible.

The admins can see IP's for all guests currently on and active, you can then look up who that block of IP's are registered to. It it returns as being registered to, with something like Comcast, SBC, Verizon, Time Warner etc, it's probably a forum lurker. If it returns as registered to like Google, Yahoo or Microsoft it's probably a search engine spider. If it returns to Chinese or a Russian domain it's probably a spam bot. Sometimes as an admin you can use IP's to learn to spot specific people who still read the forum and maybe have been banned in the past and stuff like that or when they come back under a different name unless they use a proxy or something.
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Most guests are spiders from every know search engine out there...I tried to limit them at one time but then the page rankings go down. They can be bad at times by using forum resources but on this dedicated box, they are barely noticeable! Big Grin Other guests are actually humans looking but not registering or logging in as well as some spam bots trying to find a way in to post tasty spam for our reading pleasure!
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