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#1
http://www.statisticbrain.com/gun-owners...ographics/

The link above is to a Gallup Poll. Not scientific.

Depending on what would be banned I would look at the feasibility of a civil rights suit against Congress or the Administration for its disparate impact based on race, as caucasion gun owners would be more greatly affected.

I suspect with modern sporting rifles the percentage of male ownership (sex) in combination with race (caucasion) the disparate effect would be much greater.

Federal agencies are supposed to conduct civil rights impact studies when determining policy.

I see this as a route to overturn what could be passed.

Something to consider.
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#2
Don't expect the ACLU to trip over itself running to your aid!
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#3
Good luck. In my experience, things like equal opportunity, racial equality, and socioeconomic improvements don't apply if you are a caucausion, especially male. Middle class? Forget about it.

That being said, maybe enough groups like the ACLU realize that if Obama tries to take away the 2A, the 1A - and all others - will be soon to follow and join our side of these issues.
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#4
But then again...

The Second Amendment provides: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

ACLU POSITION

"Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view. This position is currently under review and is being updated by the ACLU National Board in light of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in D.C. v. Heller in 2008".

http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice_priso...-amendment
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#5
spblademaker;70052 Wrote:But then again...

The Second Amendment provides: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

ACLU POSITION

"Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view. This position is currently under review and is being updated by the ACLU National Board in light of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in D.C. v. Heller in 2008".

http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice_priso...-amendment

The problem with the bold is that the individual right is the collective right, for without the individual, there is no "collective".
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rmagill;70207 Wrote:
spblademaker;70052 Wrote:But then again...

The Second Amendment provides: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

ACLU POSITION

"Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view. This position is currently under review and is being updated by the ACLU National Board in light of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in D.C. v. Heller in 2008".

http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice_priso...-amendment

The problem with the bold is that the individual right is the collective right, for without the individual, there is no "collective".
That makes sense to you and I, but I can't recall any ACLU action regarding the 2nd Amendment.
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#7
White is not, and never will be, a protected class on any issue.
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#8
I've argued this position before. Mamy responses were against it, but refusing to play the game by the new rules gets us nowhere.
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#9
(01-21-2013, 10:13 AM)Ten*K Wrote: I've argued this position before. Mamy responses were against it, but refusing to play the game by the new rules gets us nowhere.

Anything worth fighting for, is worth using EVERYavailable tactic to ensure victory.
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5711-Marine;70251 Wrote:
(01-21-2013, 10:13 AM)Ten*K Wrote: I've argued this position before. Mamy responses were against it, but refusing to play the game by the new rules gets us nowhere.

Anything worth fighting for, is worth using EVERYavailable tactic to ensure victory.

But using a tactic that has proven ineffective in the past?
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