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So I am looking for a smallish (24 rifles) basic gun safe. Looking around on the web and in the big box stores shows there are a lot of options, sizes and price ranges to choose from.


I want it to be small enough to move through door ways and up stairs. I don't like the idea of the electronic key code. Are they reliable? Looking at them in the stores, some are better quality than others and are made of heavier gage steel. Some have internal hinges that I assume are better than external hinges. The optional outlet inside is a plus. Any other options i should get.

Lastly, buying on sale would be great if you know of any sales coming up.


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#2
I have a browning medallion safe. the hinges are on the outside. the advantage to that is the door will swing open more then one with them in the inside.also i think the door comes off easer if you have to move it

if the safe door has the locking bolts all around it there is no problem with the hinges on the out side
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Here's one I bought from gunsafes.com. Steelwater also sells larger which should meet your needs. I am very happy with it so far. It was easy to remove the door and get it to the second floor, customer service was great, and it was free (and fast) shipping. It was also simple to install.

http://www.gunsafes.com/Steelwater-16-Gu...-Safe.html
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RUDY850;20537 Wrote:I have a browning medallion safe. the hinges are on the outside. the advantage to that is the door will swing open more then one with them in the inside.also i think the door comes off easer if you have to move it

if the safe door has the locking bolts all around it there is no problem with the hinges on the out side
This is true. The locking bolts go all the way around the door the hinges dont matter. http://www.patriotsafe.com/ I am very happy with mine. It has the electronic lock but you can over ride it using two different keys. Worth a look.
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Lee-online;20519 Wrote:So I am looking for a smallish (24 rifles) basic gun safe. Looking around on the web and in the big box stores shows there are a lot of options, sizes and price ranges to choose from.

Check out: http://www.sturdysafe.com/

I have model Model 3627-6 w/Fire protection
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#6
A few things to consider.

Buy bigger then you think you need. A 24 gun safe does not always fit 24 guns.

There is a difference in safes. Some would consider those stack on cabinets as a safe. Some would not. I myself use Liberty safes. There is a place near e that sell grafuder safes. These are more like bank vaults. The price reflects this.

Weight is another consideration. My small safes go about 700lbs. How you plan to move them and where they love is something else to think about.
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#7
Another thing to consider is why you want the safe. Are you keeping guns out of the hands of crumb-crunchers running around your house? Or are you keeping them out of the hands of thieves who may break into your house?

Those can be two different designs of safes...
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Normanvin;22003 Wrote:A few things to consider.

Buy bigger then you think you need. A 24 gun safe does not always fit 24 guns.

There is a difference in safes. Some would consider those stack on cabinets as a safe. Some would not. I myself use Liberty safes. There is a place near e that sell grafuder safes. These are more like bank vaults. The price reflects this.

Weight is another consideration. My small safes go about 700lbs. How you plan to move them and where they love is something else to think about.

Definitely buy the biggest size and best quality YOU can afford. You will be amazed at how small the safe gets after a while.
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I have a Liberty safe and I should have bought two. I don't know how many guns it's supposed to handle but I'm surely pushing the window. I am thinking of buying another. I'll probably go with the same size just for ease of moving. Look into a door accessory organizer to make extra room in the safe.

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Having posted my intro and commenting that I don't post often, I have something to say about this Smile As has been mentioned, first decide what you want the safe to do, then try to find what you want at what you are willing to pay. Crumgrabbers and thieves have different skill sets involved when screwing around with things they shouldn't. Also, safes vary widely in terms of fire protection.

I have two safes, both selected primarily for theft protection and fire resistance. I keep papers and other valuable in them as well, so both considerations were important. I don't remember the degree and time ratings now, but its easy to look up on the web. If you live in a community with a paid fire department, you can probably get by with a lower rating. If you live out in the country, with a longer response time, you'll want a higher rating, paid department or not. With no disrespect intended for volunteer departments, as most around here and I know a lot are in PA, the length of time to respond gives an active fire a great deal of headway that is hard to overcome.

I have electronic locks and have had no issues. I did inquire, though, how to override them. I don't have small children to deal with, so I don't know how repeated number pushing could screw them up. On the other hand, when I was a "little person," I did screw up the family's large, business safe by repeatedly spinning the dial playing with it, to the point they had to call a locksmith.

One of my safes is a Fort Knox, the other is trademarked "Winchester" but not otherwise branded. Both have 6, 1 inch bolts on each side of the door, plus top and bottom. Both are heavy and will take time to get into. I did not spend the extra money for the premium paint as they are both placed out of sight and not on display.

Hope this helps.

Bushy

Edit to add that the door organizer is a good feature, too.
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