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Guns-to-work laws spread as businesses fight gun group
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http://sharonherald.com/community-news-n...arms-group

Here's a story on the efforts to allow people to carry guns to work and leave them in their cars in the workplace parking lot.
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#2
I am torn on this.

On one hand, I like the idea of people being allowed to keep it in the trunk while at work.

On the other hand, i am a firm believer in private property rights.

I can see where both sides are coming from, I would just rather have the business say it is ok, rather than needing to enact a law for it.
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Connal;52721 Wrote:I am torn on this.

On one hand, I like the idea of people being allowed to keep it in the trunk while at work.

On the other hand, i am a firm believer in private property rights.

I can see where both sides are coming from, I would just rather have the business say it is ok, rather than needing to enact a law for it.

I do agree with you, but my problem with the whole thing is that my car is my own private property, and I don't feel an employer should be allowed to dictate what I can and cannot have in my car, just because I park it upon their private property. I don't feel an employer should be allowed to force you to sign a document under fear of termination that they may search your car for something that is legal. If they think you've stolen something, or that you have illicit drugs, I feel they should have to notify police and acquire a warrant for a search.

It's an issue of overlapping rights, and I don't think there is any simple answer to it.
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#4
I've often wondered about this, with respect to being in a business while something goes wrong:

If a bad guy is in the building, unless he has a personal vendetta against someone other than "the hero", "the hero" wouldn't have the opportunity to: 1. Go out to his car or truck; 2. Retrieve his PDW; 3. Reenter the place of business; 4. Take some kind of "defense of another person" action. (Utilization of the term "hero" by no means demeans the idea that one could be one, but is merely a descriptor...)

So...if I worked "there", and a BG came for me, with my PDW in the truck, I'd be shit out of luck, I think...
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Cherokee60;52752 Wrote:I've often wondered about this, with respect to being in a business while something goes wrong:

If a bad guy is in the building, unless he has a personal vendetta against someone other than "the hero", "the hero" wouldn't have the opportunity to: 1. Go out to his car or truck; 2. Retrieve his PDW; 3. Reenter the place of business; 4. Take some kind of "defense of another person" action. (Utilization of the term "hero" by no means demeans the idea that one could be one, but is merely a descriptor...)

So...if I worked "there", and a BG came for me, with my PDW in the truck, I'd be shit out of luck, I think...

I believe that a businesses primary concern about employees with guns in the car is that the guy with the gun would be the bad guy.
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#6
This is kind of off topic I would think. But I agree with Cherokee60, I never understood how public schools have the right to search your car or person at anytime they feel without a warrent. School/job it should be the same.

Cherokee60;52752 Wrote:I've often wondered about this, with respect to being in a business while something goes wrong:

If a bad guy is in the building, unless he has a personal vendetta against someone other than "the hero", "the hero" wouldn't have the opportunity to: 1. Go out to his car or truck; 2. Retrieve his PDW; 3. Reenter the place of business; 4. Take some kind of "defense of another person" action. (Utilization of the term "hero" by no means demeans the idea that one could be one, but is merely a descriptor...)

So...if I worked "there", and a BG came for me, with my PDW in the truck, I'd be shit out of luck, I think...

The AutoZone incident for example. It worked for the good guy. Retrived and came back.
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#7
People seem to think they have a "right" or are "entitled" to their jobs. That's why you see so many lawsuits for "wrongful termination."

If you REALLY support a free market and private property rights, then you should support it 100% and not half assed. That means realizing that employment is a VOLUNTARY agreement on both ends, and either side can choose to terminate that agreement at any time, for any reason. The only two exceptions are if you have an employment contract, or if there is discrimination involved (which I disagree with).

Once you set the precedent that an employer has to meet a certain criteria to fire you, next thing you know, YOU wont be able to quit your job without a good reason. See, it works both ways. This can backfire.
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#8
Best place for your pistol is on your hip. I don't like leaving a firearm in my car, to easy to break into . But if you are creative you can think of ways around almost anything.
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#9
I REALLY hope we bring that to PA, and that it would apply to my employer. However, since it's a nuke plant, I have a feeling that the NRC would have jurisdiction even over our parking lots.

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nomad;52766 Wrote:Best place for your pistol is on your hip. I don't like leaving a firearm in my car, to easy to break into . But if you are creative you can think of ways around almost anything.

I'm very creative and an awesom fabricator. I can make anything theft proof. That is unless you have a torche with you lol.
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