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HB 130 Handgun Registry Rep Tallman effort in 2015-2016
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http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/bill...e=B&bn=130

Quote:MEMORANDUM



Posted:
December 22, 2014 11:39 AM

From:
Representative Will Tallman

To:
All House members

Subject:
Handgun Registry


I respectfully request your support of legislation that I intend to re-introduce that would amend Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses), formally HB 792.

This legislation would prohibit government entities or any public or private person from compiling registries and databases of firearm ownership. There would be certain exceptions concerning criminal activities etc.

Currently Section 6111.4; Registration of Firearms; states “…any government or law enforcement agency or any agent thereof to create, maintain or operate any registry of firearm ownership…”. Our Supreme Court in their renowned wisdom decided that the wording in the statute does not include the Pennsylvania State Police and they are allowed to maintain a registry of handguns.

Hopefully to correct this decision by the Supreme Court in “Allegheny County Sportsman vs. Rendell”, we will make it even plainer that there is to be NO registry of firearms ownership by ANY government entity.
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Somebody needs to be reminded of FOPA.
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Yet the pa handgun sales database exists.
Stirpot
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Yep, and unless something like this passes or we go to the NICS, it will continue.
sgtsandman, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Nov 2014.
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So, if my wife buys a handgun while we're in PA she'll end up on a registry? Lame. Thank God for boating accidents.
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Yep, there is an additional form you fill out for a handgun purchase that gets sent to the PSP and is put on file until it is sold to someone else or reported lost or stolen.


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sgtsandman, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Nov 2014.
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sgtsandman;160571 Wrote:Yep, and unless something like this passes or we go to the NICS, it will continue.

How would switching to nics stop the psp from using the "not a registry, registry"? Since it is a separate form from the 4473 I don't see how changing to nics would help.
RL Suehr, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Aug 2013.
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RL Suehr;160619 Wrote:
sgtsandman;160571 Wrote:Yep, and unless something like this passes or we go to the NICS, it will continue.

How would switching to nics stop the psp from using the "not a registry, registry"? Since it is a separate form from the 4473 I don't see how changing to nics would help.

Because pics would be eliminated thus any involvement from the PSP.
Welcome to ObamaNation part deuxUtg
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God's Country;160623 Wrote:
RL Suehr;160619 Wrote:How would switching to nics stop the psp from using the "not a registry, registry"? Since it is a separate form from the 4473 I don't see how changing to nics would help.

Because pics would be eliminated thus any involvement from the PSP.

That's not quite the way to it works. The 4473 form you fill out for the pics check. That is the same from you would fill out under nics as well. It's the other form that goes to the state police for their ros database. They don't get the 4473.
Even if we went to nics instead of pics, the psp would still require you to fill out the form for the ros database. It wouldn't effect that.
RL Suehr, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Aug 2013.
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RL Suehr;160639 Wrote:Even if we went to nics instead of pics, the psp would still require you to fill out the form for the ros database. It wouldn't effect that.

And THAT's what needs to end. There is no need for those forms to be completed and sent in if they are NOT compiling a registry - "complete" or not.
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