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A letter to Florida’s Senator Farmer, in lieu of the recent Florida school shooting. He is leading the charge on the call for “common sense” gun legislation, to include an “Assault Weapons” ban, and organization of a rally and march, scheduled in March.


Dear Senator Farmer;

As humans, we both share in the grief of the recent and tragic Florida school shooting. No child should have to suffer the horror, no parent should have to suffer the agony of losing their child.
After seeing your recent Fox News interview, however, I would be remiss if I didn’t counter your otherwise flimsy, liberal Democrat talking point of “common sense” gun control, to include an Assault Rifle weapons ban. First of all, I have yet to find anyone who can clearly define what an “Assault Rifle” is. Many liberals, for instance feel as though the mere “AR” model designation stands for Assault Rifle, which again, is a fallacy, replacing the original “Armalite Rifle”, designation of the original manufacturer. Secondly, you claim that even the majority of NRA members are for such legislation, which is just a flat out lie. NRA members are tired of legislators, like you, dodging the REAL human issue, and blaming the gun. If an obviously psychotic kid, like Nicolas Cruz, wants to kill people he will use whatever means necessary to do so. For instance, at 9/11, airplanes were used. Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer and diesel fuel. The Boston Marathon killers used pressure cookers, and I can go on and on. Furthermore, semi-automatic rifles can be, and are being used to hunt with, although other RESPONSIBLE gun owners, such as myself, just like shooting them for sport.
You say he was too young, just 19 years old? Everyday your federal government places THOUSANDS of fully automatic rifles into the hands of 17-19 year olds, as part of our nation’s military, are you saying that they are not responsible? As a former service member, and veteran, are you suggesting that I, and many others like me, lack the training and discipline to own a semi-automatic variant? Again, more fallacy.
No, Senator Farmer, what lacks here is just plain common sense. Common sense to realize that this unfortunate tragedy was the result of a deranged young man, who had serious mental issues, that was given up on. A young man with a violent history, who NEVER should have passed a background check, exacerbated by an FBI screw up. If you want to pass “common sense” gun legislation AND get buy-in from all, quit attacking the guns and start working toward keeping these firearms out of the hands of obvious whackadoodles, and leave the rest of us responsible, gun owning, Americans, alone.

Sincerely,

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#2
I wrote my U.S. Representative and Senators the following.  Rep. Rothus, will be appreciative and is already a strong 2A supporter.  Toomey and Casey, well...  If they bother to write back, it will be some BS only worthy for using as toilet paper.  Part of this is a form letter from GOA but I added my own stuff to it as well.

Once again, the media and politicians are trying to exploit a horrific tragedy to push its gun control agenda.  But none of their gun control "solutions" would have made one whit of difference in Parkland.

For starters, designating Douglas High School as a "gun-free zone" did nothing to keep guns out of that school.

This twenty-year succession of copycat shootings began within 3 years of the passage of the school gun ban.  This ban has done nothing but alert would-be killers to the fact that they can shoot up a school, with no fear that anyone can fire back.

There is a solution to these copy-cat shootings. Pass legislation similar to H.R. 34 in the House. This would repeal America's gun-free school zones, thereby allowing teachers and principals to protect the students.

There's a reason that we haven't seen a mass shooting in Utah's schools -- they've allowed teachers to be armed since 1995.  See: gunowners.me/2BwRB1A

Eighty-one percent of police officers support arming teachers and principals. See: gunowners.me/2swMVG1

In this particular incident, the shooter displayed multiple red flags and they were either ignored or blown off as nothing.  The FBI was contacted TWICE and nothing happened.  His AR15 was supposed to be under lock and key because of concerns about his mental state and yet he got access to it.  Schools constantly tell parents how they know so much better about raising and educating children.  Where were they?  The boy was an orphaned adopted child.  Where was child services?  There were so many balls dropped that could have prevented this tragedy from happening that blaming the tool he used is a non-starter.  Fix the system and how children are raised and educated before going after the weapon.

Finally, until the 1980's, children having firearms on school property was not an unusual thing.  They were brought in for show and tell when received as a present for Christmas or their birthday.  There were school sponsored shooting teams.  And loaded rifles were kept in kid's vehicles for hunting after school.  Even if they got into a fight, grabbing a weapon never crossed their mind.  What has changed?  Not the firearm, that's for sure.   

Please pass legislation like H.R. 34 immediately.
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(02-18-2018, 07:21 PM)sgtsandman Wrote: I wrote my U.S. Representative and Senators the following.  Rep. Rothus, will be appreciative and is already a strong 2A supporter.  Toomey and Casey, well...  If they bother to write back, it will be some BS only worthy for using as toilet paper.  Part of this is a form letter from GOA but I added my own stuff to it as well.

Once again, the media and politicians are trying to exploit a horrific tragedy to push its gun control agenda.  But none of their gun control "solutions" would have made one whit of difference in Parkland.

For starters, designating Douglas High School as a "gun-free zone" did nothing to keep guns out of that school.

This twenty-year succession of copycat shootings began within 3 years of the passage of the school gun ban.  This ban has done nothing but alert would-be killers to the fact that they can shoot up a school, with no fear that anyone can fire back.

There is a solution to these copy-cat shootings. Pass legislation similar to H.R. 34 in the House. This would repeal America's gun-free school zones, thereby allowing teachers and principals to protect the students.

There's a reason that we haven't seen a mass shooting in Utah's schools -- they've allowed teachers to be armed since 1995.  See: gunowners.me/2BwRB1A

Eighty-one percent of police officers support arming teachers and principals. See: gunowners.me/2swMVG1

In this particular incident, the shooter displayed multiple red flags and they were either ignored or blown off as nothing.  The FBI was contacted TWICE and nothing happened.  His AR15 was supposed to be under lock and key because of concerns about his mental state and yet he got access to it.  Schools constantly tell parents how they know so much better about raising and educating children.  Where were they?  The boy was an orphaned adopted child.  Where was child services?  There were so many balls dropped that could have prevented this tragedy from happening that blaming the tool he used is a non-starter.  Fix the system and how children are raised and educated before going after the weapon.

Finally, until the 1980's, children having firearms on school property was not an unusual thing.  They were brought in for show and tell when received as a present for Christmas or their birthday.  There were school sponsored shooting teams.  And loaded rifles were kept in kid's vehicles for hunting after school.  Even if they got into a fight, grabbing a weapon never crossed their mind.  What has changed?  Not the firearm, that's for sure.   

Please pass legislation like H.R. 34 immediately.


Nice job. My primary issue, in this case, is liberal Democrat lawmakers exploiting bereaving children to further their anti-gun agenda.
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(02-18-2018, 10:23 PM)DeadEye Wrote:
(02-18-2018, 07:21 PM)sgtsandman Wrote: I wrote my U.S. Representative and Senators the following.  Rep. Rothus, will be appreciative and is already a strong 2A supporter.  Toomey and Casey, well...  If they bother to write back, it will be some BS only worthy for using as toilet paper.  Part of this is a form letter from GOA but I added my own stuff to it as well.

Once again, the media and politicians are trying to exploit a horrific tragedy to push its gun control agenda.  But none of their gun control "solutions" would have made one whit of difference in Parkland.

For starters, designating Douglas High School as a "gun-free zone" did nothing to keep guns out of that school.

This twenty-year succession of copycat shootings began within 3 years of the passage of the school gun ban.  This ban has done nothing but alert would-be killers to the fact that they can shoot up a school, with no fear that anyone can fire back.

There is a solution to these copy-cat shootings. Pass legislation similar to H.R. 34 in the House. This would repeal America's gun-free school zones, thereby allowing teachers and principals to protect the students.

There's a reason that we haven't seen a mass shooting in Utah's schools -- they've allowed teachers to be armed since 1995.  See: gunowners.me/2BwRB1A

Eighty-one percent of police officers support arming teachers and principals. See: gunowners.me/2swMVG1

In this particular incident, the shooter displayed multiple red flags and they were either ignored or blown off as nothing.  The FBI was contacted TWICE and nothing happened.  His AR15 was supposed to be under lock and key because of concerns about his mental state and yet he got access to it.  Schools constantly tell parents how they know so much better about raising and educating children.  Where were they?  The boy was an orphaned adopted child.  Where was child services?  There were so many balls dropped that could have prevented this tragedy from happening that blaming the tool he used is a non-starter.  Fix the system and how children are raised and educated before going after the weapon.

Finally, until the 1980's, children having firearms on school property was not an unusual thing.  They were brought in for show and tell when received as a present for Christmas or their birthday.  There were school sponsored shooting teams.  And loaded rifles were kept in kid's vehicles for hunting after school.  Even if they got into a fight, grabbing a weapon never crossed their mind.  What has changed?  Not the firearm, that's for sure.   

Please pass legislation like H.R. 34 immediately.


Nice job. My primary issue, in this case, is liberal Democrat lawmakers exploiting bereaving children to further their anti-gun agenda.  Any angle they can take to get to the end goal of banning firearms and making their base feel good that 'something is being done".
EDIT:  I wonder where my text in the reply went?  I can't even remember what my reply was supposed to be....
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I think I get it!  I do, I do, I do!  Disarm almost 300 million sane law-abiding people in order to control several dozen lunatic-fringe whack jobs.  THIS must be what 'common sense gun legislation' is really all about!
L'enfer c’est les autres, et les choses terribles qu'ils font!'  -  Jean-Paul Sartre  
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“Common Sense gun legislation”, is liberal speak for eliminating firearms.


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(02-25-2018, 08:46 PM)DeadEye Wrote: “Common Sense gun legislation”, is liberal speak for eliminating firearms.

THey are starting to use "Gun Safety Legislation" now since they are cluing in that people are seeing through the "Common Sense" BS.
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(02-26-2018, 09:26 PM)sgtsandman Wrote:
(02-25-2018, 08:46 PM)DeadEye Wrote: “Common Sense gun legislation”, is liberal speak for eliminating firearms.

THey are starting to use "Gun Safety Legislation" now since they are cluing in that people are seeing through the "Common Sense" BS.


Whatever they want to call it, we all KNOW that it’s all about banning firearms entirely. Lately, they are applauding the students who “organized” the upcoming rally in DC. Organized and financially backed by liberal Democrat organizations.
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(03-03-2018, 12:29 PM)DeadEye Wrote: Whatever they want to call it, we all KNOW that it’s all about banning firearms entirely. Lately, they are applauding the students who “organized” the upcoming rally in DC. Organized and financially backed by liberal Democrat organizations.

Yep.  Speaking of which, a new bill has been introduced in the U.S. House, H.R.5087 Assault Weapons Ban of 2018.  It appears they pretty much ban all semiautomatic rifles and shotguns with detachable magazines and AR/AK pistols from a quick read through the bill.  https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-cong.../5087/text
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On the positive side, Representative Massie introduced H.R.34 Safe Students Act with the aim to actually fix one of the real problems.

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USA – -(Ammoland.com)- Congressman Thomas Massie has proposed repealing the controversial federal ban on guns within a thousand feet of a school. From cnsnews.com:
Quote:Massie said the solution to school shootings is putting more than one-armed guard at school or allowing teachers to be armed, adding that “98 percent of mass public shootings happen in a gun free zone.”
“And we’ve labeled all of our schools as gun free zones. We need to take those labels off, and put our kids in that two percent category of being safe, instead of being in that 98 percent vulnerable category,” he said.
Massie said his bill, the Safe Students Act (H.R. 34), has the support of Columbine survivor Evan Todd.
Congressman Massie (R-KY) is right about an important fact. School shootings increased after federal gun bans were passed.
The 1990 Gun Free School Zone Act (GFSZA) was a ban on guns within a thousand feet of school. It effectively banned the carry of guns in most cities and towns.
The 1996 GFSZA act included a minor change that exempted people with concealed carry permits. The 1994 Gun Free School act gave incentives for schools to ban guns inside the schools.
What caused the increase in mass murder in schools? There are two likely possibilities . . .
  • The gun bans make the schools inviting targets. Potential mass murderers know that they can kill more people without armed opposition. The number they kill is important, because they want fame.
  • The second factor is the copycat effect. Fame gives societal misfits a pseudo-immortality in celebrity. Celebrity is valued about all other things in our popular culture.
Potential mass murderers who are unhinged, poorly integrated into society, and considering suicide, see an option to leave the life they hate while achieving celebrity status.
The media loved the restrictions. The establishment media use school shootings to push for more gun bans, restrictions on gun ownership and use. The media give coverage to school shootings all out of proportion to the number of people killed. The coverage gives future mass murderers incentive to kill large numbers of people and “break the record”.
Congressman Massie is working to bring to the debate a factor ignored by the elite media for decades. School shootings shot up after the federal gun bans were passed, not before they took effect.
2018 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/03/representative-massie-proposes-repeal-gun-free-school-zone-act/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=54e3c85043-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-54e3c85043-20588469#axzz58jgD8QkR
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