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Hobby Lobby
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Okay. So we have a lot of hate speech going on about Hobby Lobby right now, despite the ruling from a fairly liberal SCOTUS. They've been doing fairly balanced decisions lately (one so far I disagreed with) and right now people are buying into the hate without the facts.

1. This all started with Obamacare being forced on businesses.
2. Hobby Lobby allows birth control to be provided. What it disagreed with was IUD and morning after pills and abortion drugs.
3. Nobody forces women to work for Hobby Lobby.
4. Starting wage for Hobby Lobby is $14/hr! (Go buy your own morning after pill!)
5. Many people don't even have a local Hobby Lobby so this doesn't even affect them.


Sooo sick of the crying and complaining about a business that overall seems to treat it's workers rather well, and a ruling that was deemed completely constitutional by the SCOTUS.
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First of all this was not part of the obamacare law when passed because the law probably wouldn't have passed with the mandate included because it violated the Religious Freedom Restoration Act signed into law by clinton in 1993.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_F...ration_Act

the mandate was imposed by the unelected bureaucrats at HHS after the law passed

Quote:At its core, the Left’s moaning over Hobby Lobby is less about access to medicine and more about access to free stuff.

Quote:The Left is foaming at the mouth over the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision this morning.

“This is going to turn the dial back,” Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz warned on MSNBC.

The Democratic party’s national chairwoman added: “Republicans want to do everything they can to have the long hand of government, and now the long hand of business, reach into a woman’s body and make health care decisions for her.”

“Today’s Supreme Court decision unfortunately jeopardizes basic healthcare coverage and access to contraception for a countless number of women,” said Democratic senator Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire.

Consequently, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said that his party now must “fight to preserve women’s access to contraceptive coverage.”

This is not just garbage. It’s an entire landfill on stilts.

Imagine that a woman starts work at Hobby Lobby tomorrow morning — July 1.

She joins Hobby Lobby’s health care plan. It includes access, copay-free, to the following categories of FDA-approved birth-control:


Male condoms
Female condoms
Diaphragms with spermicide
Sponges with spermicide
Cervical caps with spermicide
Spermicide alone
Birth-control pills with estrogen and progestin (“Combined Pill)
Birth-control pills with progestin alone (“The Mini Pill)
Birth control pills (extended/continuous use)
Contraceptive patches
Contraceptive rings
Progestin injections
Implantable rods
Vasectomies
Female sterilization surgeries
Female sterilization implants

(This new woman at Hobby Lobby cannot use male condoms or a vasectomy, at least not directly. However, if she chose either contraceptive method, in conjunction with her husband, she would have access to it.)

Further, not only would she have access to these medicines and devices, but Hobby Lobby would fund them.

That’s right: while White House press secretary Josh Earnest claims that it “jeopardizes the health of women,” Hobby Lobby’s health plan pays for 16 different kinds of contraceptives for its female employees!

In the Left’s fantasy world, the militant Christians at Hobby Lobby police single female employees to assure that they have not engaged in sinful, pre-marital sex.

As for married women, Hobby Lobby deprives them of birth control so that each can deliver a new baby every nine months, for God’s glory, just like in the Old Testament.

Liberals are living in a cartoon of their own making.

Again, Hobby Lobby’s health plan pays for birth-control pills, vaginal rings, contraceptive patches, and other items to help female employees plan their pregnancies.

The Left’s arguments to the contrary are — surprise, surprise — lies.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/381...oy-murdock

starting pay at hobby-lobby is $14 an hour



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It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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#3
Another chink in the ACA armor.

I still don't see the issue, it's not as if they're really paying for those services, but hey, any damage to the ACA is good.

Justin
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JustinHEMI;148201 Wrote:Another chink in the ACA armor.

I still don't see the issue, it's not as if they're really paying for those services, but hey, any damage to the ACA is good.

Justin

That's racist.
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#5
I want to see the ACA go-away and this ruling was a nice little Libertarian slap in the face to liberals.

Far more success rate here than the stupid birther people ever got--or the government shutdown.
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