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morpheus6d9;43705 Wrote:im looking to get into automation only thing i have so far is a wfi enabled thermostat, which products give the best value ?
thanks

I've never worked with any of the controlled thermostats. If I were to get one, I'd pick a brand that I recognize and read through the reviews available for it. Throwing away the glowingly good reviews and the this is a piece of shit review. Kind of like scoring Olympic diving competitions.
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#32
streaker69;43707 Wrote:
morpheus6d9;43705 Wrote:im looking to get into automation only thing i have so far is a wfi enabled thermostat, which products give the best value ?
thanks

I've never worked with any of the controlled thermostats. If I were to get one, I'd pick a brand that I recognize and read through the reviews available for it. Throwing away the glowingly good reviews and the this is a piece of shit review. Kind of like scoring Olympic diving competitions.

zwave , x10 which ones are better
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morpheus6d9;43796 Wrote:
streaker69;43707 Wrote:I've never worked with any of the controlled thermostats. If I were to get one, I'd pick a brand that I recognize and read through the reviews available for it. Throwing away the glowingly good reviews and the this is a piece of shit review. Kind of like scoring Olympic diving competitions.

zwave , x10 which ones are better

I can only speak about X10 because I haven't gotten into ZWave yet. But from the research that I did, the costs for getting into Zwave is a good bit higher than X10. Granted, ZWave has a wider variety of modules that you can use, so you need to ask yourself what you're planning on doing.

You can mix the two systems in one house with no problems if you're using HomeSeer or something similar as a controller. ZWave broadcasts its control signals over 904mhz (in the US), whereas X10 broadcasts it's control signals at the zero crossing of the AC signal directly onto the house wiring. There is wireless in X10 as well, operating on, I believe, 310mhz.

X10 is less secure because there effectively isn't any security in controlling it, so you'd have to rely upon "security by obscurity" if no one knows you're using X10, then they won't know to interact with it via an X10 wireless controller. I know that ZWave has some security features built into it, but haven't researched it enough to talk about it.

What you want to get into solely depends upon what you want to automate, if you're just looking for lighting controls, and a few other minor functions, X10 is fine. If you're going to get into pool/pond pumps, curtain/drapery controls, energy management you probably want to go with ZWave. But ZWave will probably be 3 to 4 times the cost of X10 to get into.
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#34
Can you set up a program to automatically hit your wife whenever she leaves the kitchen?
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#35
bac0nfat;43819 Wrote:Can you set up a program to automatically hit your wife whenever she leaves the kitchen?

Yes, but you'd have to build the actual hitting mechanism yourself, but you can use the X10 Powerflash (PF284) unit to trigger the device to activate. That could be easily tied into a motion sensor to detect movement outside of the kitchen.

If you wanted it more granular then you'd probably have to move into RFID detection, I think I saw some stuff related to that recently.
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#36
streaker69;43820 Wrote:
bac0nfat;43819 Wrote:Can you set up a program to automatically hit your wife whenever she leaves the kitchen?

Yes, but you'd have to build the actual hitting mechanism yourself, but you can use the X10 Powerflash (PF284) unit to trigger the device to activate. That could be easily tied into a motion sensor to detect movement outside of the kitchen.

If you wanted it more granular then you'd probably have to move into RFID detection, I think I saw some stuff related to that recently.

And you'd have to make some sort of override in case you need her to get you a beer. Then again, she probably still deserves to be hit. Wink
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#37
bac0nfat;43824 Wrote:
streaker69;43820 Wrote:Yes, but you'd have to build the actual hitting mechanism yourself, but you can use the X10 Powerflash (PF284) unit to trigger the device to activate. That could be easily tied into a motion sensor to detect movement outside of the kitchen.

If you wanted it more granular then you'd probably have to move into RFID detection, I think I saw some stuff related to that recently.

And you'd have to make some sort of override in case you need her to get you a beer. Then again, she probably still deserves to be hit. Wink

After thinking about this for a bit, it would probably be easier just to outfit your wife with a Bark Collar and have the PF284 trigger it.
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