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how can it be about "assault" weapons if none were involved?
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the more i read the more i think this is a setup . how better to get people outraged at guns than a killing of 20 upper middle class white children .

who where the others arrested as first reported?

first they said the guy guy was "buzzed" in. i was thinking how could this skinny kid get buzzed in if he had the rifle as first reported.

then it was the rifle was in the back of the car so now i can see him being buzzed in as its easier to hide handguns.

then saturday night he wasn't buzzed in but broke in? (how)

enter the FBI and ATF and other alphabet organizations on saturday.

they all enter the huddle and the stories are manipulated and changed

then sunday the medical examiner comes out and says everyone was shot with a .223 rifle between 3 and 11 times each over 100 rounds were fired

no way they completed 27 autopsies between saturday and sunday

monday it comes out that "it could have been much worse" and that he had hundreds of rounds on him

the media says, "why would anyone need assault weapons"

we've seen in libia, Egypt, and Syria what a minority part of a countries population can do with AK-47's and enough ammo

how can so many news reports have so much inaccurate information?

its an easy answer if it's all being made up as you go along



from CNN
Quote:[Updated at 6:51 p.m. ET] A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation says the three guns found at the shooting site were legally purchased by Nancy Lanza, the mother of the suspect in the shooting.

According to the law enforcement official, the Glock and Sig Sauer handguns were found inside the school with the deceased gunman. The Bushmaster was found in a car outside the school. The official did not know if the car was registered to the gunman, to his mother or to someone else.

The official echoed what other law enforcement officials have told CNN: That Adam Lanza was the suspected gunman, and that he died at the scene of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/sho...ry-school/


and for those that think "our" government couldn't do this .....they have killed 10's of thousands of children in viet nam, iraq and afghanistan


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I'm right there with you, we are being fed a lot of garbage to fit the agenda and people are eating it up and creaming their shorts over it. If I were to dream up how to make a mass shooting fit an agenda this is exactly where I would go with the story.

I have no doubts that the police know by now whether or not the mother's firearms were locked up, and at least whether or not the kid gained entry by knowing the combination or using a key vs forced entry of some type. We aren't hearing that. None of that info changes what happened, but I think it has a huge impact on the storyline.

I've seen a couple articles now going into how dangerous "the Bushmaster .223 combat rifle" is, and how the bullet is specifically designed to inflict mass trauma which is why therefore the .223 should be outlawed.
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Why don't you just come and and say exactly what you think happened so we can all judge crazy for what it is. Do you think O, or the Left, or the CIA, or the MSM planned and did this?

Or is this more like 9/11 where the shooter was a robot and the kids were not really in the school?
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Dave;55323 Wrote:Why don't you just come and and say exactly what you think happened so we can all judge crazy for what it is. Do you think O, or the Left, or the CIA, or the MSM planned and did this?

Or is this more like 9/11 where the shooter was a robot and the kids were not really in the school?


please point out anything i put in my post that isn't true as reported
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Dave;55323 Wrote:Why don't you just come and and say exactly what you think happened so we can all judge crazy for what it is. Do you think O, or the Left, or the CIA, or the MSM planned and did this?

Or is this more like 9/11 where the shooter was a robot and the kids were not really in the school?

Do you really think it impossible that somebody is pulling strings on the details of the story? I believe this kid went into a school and did something horrific, causing the loss of a lot of children. I am skeptical of the details of the story which, as horrific as they were originally, changed severely to perfectly fit the agenda necessary to push an AWB.
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The news wrongly reporting something in the middle of a frenzy is zero evidence of anything. Some of your statements such as "no way they completed 27 autopsies between saturday and sunday" and just wrong.

But nevertheless, do post what you really think happened. You and a few of you are on this kick so spell it out for us.

csmith;55342 Wrote:Do you really think it impossible that somebody is pulling strings on the details of the story? I believe this kid went into a school and did something horrific, causing the loss of a lot of children. I am skeptical of the details of the story which, as horrific as they were originally, changed severely to perfectly fit the agenda necessary to push an AWB.

On something this scale, yes - damn near impossible. But I'm asking what you are really saying?

For example, there was a team of medical examiners working on the bodies, are they all lying?
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Quote:Some of your statements such as "no way they completed 27 autopsies between saturday and sunday" and just wrong.


maybe a big city like Hartford has their own coroner .....but most places have only 1 coroner per county. they would need quite a few at 4 hrs each to do 27 of them between saturday night when they removed the bodies until sunday afternoon when the coroner had his press conference to announce his findings


Quote:The average autopsy -- including paperwork -- takes approximately four hours to complete. The external examination of the autopsy, which involves both dictation and paperwork, lasts about half an hour. However, the internal examination of an autopsy will last from one to two hours. If the investigation is part of a complex homicide case, the autopsy could take four to six hours to complete.

The old pathologists' joke boasts that they're the only doctors whose patients don't complain. That may be true, but every dead body has a story to tell. Examining wounds in a homicide case can be one of the most challenging elements of an autopsy because the medical examiner must use his or her experience and skill to identify the exact nature and cause of the wound. The level of difficulty in this effort can increase depending on the weapon used or the wound itself. If a gun was used, the paths and angle of each bullet and the number of weapons fired must be identified. If someone was bludgeoned to death, there may be multiple injuries, several patterns of injury may be present, and the perpetrator may also have used several different weapons. Because of these variables, the medical examiner will become an expert at identifying patterns of injury and trauma through years of experience. In a noncriminal case they will likely be examining organs to determine the patient's cause of death.

http://curiosity.discovery.com/question/...o-complete


and could they all be lying?

there was only one spokesperson at the podium .....

does fast and furious come to mind?

i'm not saying at all "what" happened , because i do not know all the facts.

what i do know is they are manipulating the facts to fit their agenda


and yes i am "batshit crazy" , my ex wife told me so, although she's the only one

but according to me she is a whore and a gold digger and many people have confirmed my thoughts
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And you know that how? Do you at least know how many coroners were working? And you know what they did with the bullets removed from the bodies? Do you know anything at all we don't? Anything?
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Dave;55344 Wrote:On something this scale, yes - damn near impossible. But I'm asking what you are really saying?

For example, there was a team of medical examiners working on the bodies, are they all lying?

I am specifically saying I don't think it is impossible that somebody said "this is exactly what we need for a tipping point, but wait a minute there was an AR15 in the back of the car, we need that gun in the school, just go back and say we were wrong, it was a shotgun in the car."

Not one single witness report says "I saw him come through the door holding a rifle" or "I saw him walk down the hallway holding a rifle." This media that we have, they would be quoting that shit left and right. When has there ever been an incident like this where quotes like that from witnesses weren't all over the front page the same day it happened?

Given what I've said above, I also don't think it is impossible that the coroner was cut out of the autopsies or examinations when the FBI and ATF took over, then he became podium boy and was told all the bodies had entrance wounds resembling 223 projectiles.

Okay on the other hand, maybe everybody was rushing to get the scoop and just majorly botched everything, and the shooting went down exactly as it is now being reported. But frankly, given the track record we have seen with "official reports" of other recent events, something just feels off. Top it off with the influx of reports of the mother being a crazy prepper who *hahahahaha* actually believed an economic collapse was possible *hahahahaha*. I'm not saying that part is made up, but I find it highly probable that information was released and reported specifically in a manner to demonize preppers.

The only other details being released are ASSAULT WEAPON ASSAULT WEAPON ASSAULT WEAPON. Other pertinent information has not come out IE how did he get his hands on the weapons, were they locked up, were they sitting in a closet, what? There are so many details not being let out and I just find it odd that the only real detail coming out and being stated over and over and over is ASSAULT WEAPON.
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csmith;55379 Wrote:I am specifically saying I don't think it is impossible that somebody said "this is exactly what we need for a tipping point, but wait a minute there was an AR15 in the back of the car, we need that gun in the school, just go back and say we were wrong, it was a shotgun in the car."

But the scale of what would be needed to actually pull that off would be damn near impossible. Sure, plant the rifle. Easy enough. But then you got all those bodies with holes. So now you are adding all those coroners and investigator into the web. And that's just the very minimal that needs to be done.

Of course ANYTHING is possible but acknowledging that does not mean that we hint at Aliens being in our house when the kid knocks over a glass of milk and says he didn't do it. Our standard should by way higher than anything is possible.
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