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How Much Difference Between 44mag and 357?
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jahwarrior72;169039 Wrote:.44 Magnum has more recoil and weight than the .357 Magnum, but doesn't really have much more "knockdown" power than the .357, so really, you're not missing anything.

Do you reload? If not, you should consider giving it a try.

I concur, jah gave you basically what I think you're looking for. There is a noticeable difference in weight and recoil. In .357 Magnum I have a Ruger Security Six, it's not very heavy and with a good magnum load it's felt recoil is a handful for some people. If bender was still active here I could summon him for his opinion. He's shot my Security Six with my reloads, (which are magnum, but not overloaded, they are right at the top end of published specs. 158 gr JHP over 18 grains of Hodgdon Lil' Gun powder).
He says it stings, (or maybe he said "hurts" his hand). Either way, he doesn't want to shoot it again. That same load out of my S&W 686 with a longer barrel is considerably more comfortable to shoot. Neither of those revolvers with that load has as much felt recoil as my Ruger Super Blackhawk with factory .44 Magnum loads.
I don't know how the two compare as far as weight is concerned but the Blackhawk is certainly heavier than the Security Six.
A heavier .357 Mag revolver will have less felt recoil than a lighter one, same with .44 Mag, so with that being said, it sort of depends on how much weight you're comfortable with.
If you have issues with recoil sensitivity for any reason, reloading is your friend.
As far as quantifying how much recoil difference there is, I don't know how to approach that other than to say that there is a noticeable difference.
I'm a lot more comfortable with the .357 but I really don't mind the .44 Magnum.
Published ballistics data of various manufacturers may be something that could help answer your questions. I'm seeing .357 Magnum (factory load specs), showing muzzle energy of .357 Magnum ranging from a little over 400 Ft Lbs to a little over 800 Ft Lbs:
http://www.ballistics101.com/357_magnum.php
while the specs for .44 Magnum range from a little over 600 Ft lbs to over 1250 Ft lbs. There are a few extremes on those charts though, such as the Buffalo Bore load that is shown as 1649 Ft lbs for a .44 Mag+p load and a Speer Specialty round for snub nose revolvers (low speed expansion) which shows muzzle energy of only 513 Ft lbs.
I'm not seeing any high end exceptions, (+p) for .357 but there is a low end exception: Specialty round for snub nose revolvers (low speed expansion), that shows muzzle energy of 294 Ft Lbs.
http://www.ballistics101.com/44_magnum.php

For a definitive answer you'd just about have to have two guns of approximate equal size and weight with ammo of similar muzzle energy and try them one after the other to feel it for yourself.

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Is there much difference between a .38 special +p and a .357 magnum out of a 2" barrel?
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Philadelphia Patriot;169368 Wrote:Is there much difference between a .38 special +p and a .357 magnum out of a 2" barrel?

YES!
Considerable difference in felt recoil and muzzle energy.
.38 Special +p is about double the regular .38 Special but only about half of .357 Magnum.
I would call the .38 +P loads very mild and manageable compared to most .357 loads, even with a short barrel.
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