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How will a Trump nomination affect Pa
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I am not a Trump supporter. If it weren't for my concerns about Hilary screwing with the 2nd I would be tempted for the first time in my life to press the no vote button or skip voting all together. But if it comes down to Hilarly, I can't allow my vote to equal even a one vote swing in her direction and will pull the lever for Trump and literally hope for the best.

But I've talked to a lot of traditional Republican voters who say there is no way in hell that they will vote for Trump. While I understand where they are coming from, this could really hurt Pa.

Presidential elections bring out high numbers because people want to vote for the President. I can easily see a lot of Hilary voters getting out bringing high numbers, and a lot of Trump haters sticking to their guns and staying home allowing Democrats a huge advantage with the coat tail effect. This could be a perfect storm for dems.

One of the things we supporters of the 2nd hang our hopes on in Pa to keep the 2nd the way it is, is our control of the Pa house. Know how many house seats are up for reelection this year? ALL 203 OF THEM!

So Democrats turn up with their normal presidential year numbers. Republicans turn out with lackluster numbers because of Trump. We could potentially see a change in the Pa house. How much I don't know, but enough that It is a concern on my radar.

Think about it, Wolf in 2014, the Pa high court in 2015, could the house potentially swing in 2016?

This is not taking into account the 435 seats in the U.S congress and 34 seats in the U.S senate that are also up in November.


This could be a generation defining election on many levels assuming Trump gets the nod and the republican party does not support him. Way too many ways that we can shoot ourselves in the foot.

What do you all think, could we wind up losing the Pa house or am I overthinking things?
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#2
I hope people don't stay home. If it comes down to voting for Trump or Clinton, I would rather gamble on Trump actually doing what he says he's going to do than a guaranteed extension of what out current White House resident has done. I'm not holding my breath on that but a chance of turning things around is better than absolutely no chance at all.


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#3
Remember Trump has been an NYC'r his entire life.

He's more than willing to sell us all down the river.

The only thing left to hang on to is the Senate and the state legislatures since the Executive is going to be a shitshow no matter what for the next 5 years guaranteed.
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#4
Unfortunately, I'm afraid you are right.


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#5
The real question should be, how in the hell does Trump even get the majority of the votes to be the party leader in the first place?

I'll vote my principles no matter what the nominee becomes. If my principles finally line up with the majority and gets the win than so be it. If not, at least I tried and won't have the shame of selling out.

A vote for the NY liberal Trump is a vote wasted.
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there is no one running for the republican party that is worth a damn
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I have always been against write ins or staying home but if Trump is on the ticket I may actually write in or stay home. I'm surprised at myself, but there it is. I don't think he means a word of what he says.

I'm still a Carson person even though I think he is pulling out on Friday.
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Internet troll;173034 Wrote:~snip~

But if it comes down to Hilarly, I can't allow my vote to equal even a one vote swing in her direction and will pull the lever for Trump and literally hope for the best.

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Have to agree. We KNOW Hillary wants to disarm us, among other things, it's a crapshoot with Trump, but no way I'm not going to vote against Hillary, so if it's Trump, that's the lever I pull.
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RugerGirl;173041 Wrote:I have always been against write ins or staying home but if Trump is on the ticket I may actually write in or stay home. I'm surprised at myself, but there it is. I don't think he means a word of what he says.

I'm still a Carson person even though I think he is pulling out on Friday.

Trump's share of the pledged delegate count has finally dropped below 50%, but that's because of Texas. If he can stay below that mark he will be going to the convention below the required number for an automatic party endorsement.

It then turns into a brokered convention with days of voting rounds and that's when the big wigs will come in and push Trump off to the side. It's either that or reliable Republican endorsers and funders back an indep candidate or the Libertarian nominee to ensure that even if Trump wins the nomination he is guaranteed to lose the election.

Of course that will mean President Clinton 1.5, but if the Senate holds then she's basically neutralized in gridlock like Obama is right now.
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