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Idaho Opens The Door To The Nullification Of The Posse Comitatus Act
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Quote:The House Transportation and Defense Committee, on a voice vote, has approved legislation that would significantly broaden the role of the Idaho National Guard. House Bill 367 seeks to amend existing law to allow for circumstances when the Idaho National Guard and the Idaho Military Division could be utilized as a state law enforcement agency.

“There seemed to be no major opposition to this bill,” commented Rep. Linden Bateman, R-Idaho Falls. “It seems like a good idea to me and I supported it.”

The bill also seeks to formalize what is known as the Idaho National Guard Counter Drug Support Program by declaring that it may “assist federal and state law enforcement agencies in interdicting the importation of controlled substances into this state.”

Additionally, the bill declares that the military unit will be “deemed a state law enforcement agency for the purpose of participating in the sharing of property seized or forfeited and receive property and revenues.”

When reached for comment about the new legislation, Monica Hopkins of the Idaho chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union noted that “I think there should be growing concern among citizens at the militarization of our police forces.

We have seen communities where federal dollars are going toward the use of tanks and other military weaponry.

American citizens should be concerned at the growing militarization of local government power.”

http://www.idahoreporter.com/2014/house-...nal-guard/
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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and so it begins


I would have never thought using the military would start in Idaho. I surely thought it would be a liberal state. you know how they all know what's best for us.

And yes I know military has been used before in cities but wouldn't we all see not to this extent.
With the Second Amendment saying what it says, Why isn't the Federal Government Suing NY
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If this becomes acceptable and normalized, it will become procedure.
If it becomes procedure, the republic is truly dead.

As a comment to the many articles about the usurping of freedoms that I read, daily, I say (sometimes jokingly, sometimes not) "when does the shooting start?"

I think we may have found a definitive answer to that question.
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Let us see how long it takes for them to start serving warrants and making traffic stops.
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the article states that the bill allows them to do police duties so the Idaho national guard would also be eligible to receive the monies and property of criminals they capture, as the police do.

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"Additionally, the bill declares that the military unit will be “deemed a state law enforcement agency for the purpose of participating in the sharing of property seized or forfeited and receive property and revenues.”

I'll look for this in our phila papersWink
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51158;133874 Wrote:the article states that the bill allows them to do police duties so the Idaho national guard would also be eligible to receive the monies and property of criminals they capture, as the police do.

Quote from Article,
"Additionally, the bill declares that the military unit will be “deemed a state law enforcement agency for the purpose of participating in the sharing of property seized or forfeited and receive property and revenues.”

I'll look for this in our phila papersWink

Maybe we should have stayed British.
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I guess all that's left is for the people of Idaho to be forced to quarter troops in their homes.

Oh wait, that's kind of happened already.
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Yeah yeah I’m the jerk who upsets the apple cart but hopefully somebody will care that this has zero to do with Posse Comitatus.

From the very article:

The distinctions between military power and domestic law enforcement power have a long and varied history. The Posse Comitatus Act, passed by the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President Rutherford B. Hayes in 1878, sought to limit the power of the federal government to use military personnel for domestic purposes although state National Guard units are generally regarded as exempt from the law.


To preempt the usual: NO, that does not mean I support Idaho doing this as I don’t support phony fear mongering.

At what point do you guys get sick of being lied to? Shrug
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Dave;133908 Wrote:Yeah yeah I’m the jerk who upsets the apple cart but hopefully somebody will care that this has zero to do with Posse Comitatus.

From the very article:

The distinctions between military power and domestic law enforcement power have a long and varied history. The Posse Comitatus Act, passed by the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President Rutherford B. Hayes in 1878, sought to limit the power of the federal government to use military personnel for domestic purposes although state National Guard units are generally regarded as exempt from the law.


To preempt the usual: NO, that does not mean I support Idaho doing this as I don’t support phony fear mongering.

At what point do you guys get sick of being lied to? Shrug

one step at a time

keep chopping at the tree

sooner or later it will fall
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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Dave;133908 Wrote:Yeah yeah I’m the jerk who upsets the apple cart but hopefully somebody will care that this has zero to do with Posse Comitatus.

From the very article:

The distinctions between military power and domestic law enforcement power have a long and varied history. The Posse Comitatus Act, passed by the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President Rutherford B. Hayes in 1878, sought to limit the power of the federal government to use military personnel for domestic purposes although state National Guard units are generally regarded as exempt from the law.


To preempt the usual: NO, that does not mean I support Idaho doing this as I don’t support phony fear mongering.

At what point do you guys get sick of being lied to? Shrug

"A little-noticed change in federal law packs an important change in who is in charge the next time a state is devastated by a disaster such as Hurricane Katrina.

To the dismay of the nationâ€s governors, the White House now will be empowered to go over a governorâ€s head and call up National Guard troops to aid a state in time of natural disasters or other public emergencies. Up to now, governors were the sole commanders in chief of citizen soldiers in local Guard units during emergencies within the state."


It's kind of a fine line, don't ya think?
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