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Okay. I'm just gonna say it. I am SICK of the bully tactics of this country. If a state decides to allow religious people to make decisions based on their religion, fine. Why all the bully tactics? Why all the boycotts? Why all the hate towards religion?

I don't care who or why, but if a personally owned business doesn't want to serve ANY person for ANY reason, it should be allowed, without being sued or made to pay fines or go to "anti free speech" training. Guess what...if a Muslim owned business decides it doesn't want to serve me....I'll find a new business. I won't sue. Why would I even care? It's ridiculous. They have that right...it's their property.

Indiana simply wants to protect people and small business owners from large fines and court cases if they simply decide to turn away a client for some reason directly relating to religious principles.

This law is really going to effect very few people, yet they are blowing this thing way out of proportion as if it's some sort of huge anti-gay law. It's not like Indiana is barring gays, or even gay marriage. It's simply protecting religious small business. Not everyone has to like it. Nobody cares that religious people don't like gay marriage...but heaven forbid a gay person or a black person be offended or upset by something..... why does everyone have to be bullied into agreeing with other people's opinions?

As I said....I'm very tired of the bully tactics being used. "Hands up Don't Shoot", or boycotting states, or whatever else. The left is all for free speech and tolerance until it's a white middle class man or a Christian who wants free speech...and THEN, oh THEN, it's racism and hate.

Grrrr.
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It's a free country right? If they wanna boycott then boycott.
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The irony is, that law is much ado about nothing. Did everybody forget about the 14th Amendment and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution? As long as it's not discriminatory there is no violation. Indiana just created a law that didn't need creating.
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Indiana simply created a law that just re-affirms you can wear a Burqa wherever the fuck you want to.

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JustinHEMI;163691 Wrote:Freedom!


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Funny thing is, nobody is doing this. The only discrimination there has ever been has been to events, not individuals.

I myself used to turn down cake orders.....not because of who ordered but because the cake was a body part or whatever I didn't want to do. I did not do bachelor parties. I realize most people agree that's my right,,...but suddenly you throw a gay event in there and it's offensive.....?

Uinta Firearms;163689 Wrote:The irony is, that law is much ado about nothing. Did every forget about the 14th Amendment and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution? As long as it's not discriminatory there is no violation. Indiana just created a law that didn't need creating.

Hate crime laws don't need creating either, but that didn't stop anyone.....and nobody has been boycotted over it.
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Uinta Firearms;163689 Wrote:The irony is, that law is much ado about nothing. Did every forget about the 14th Amendment and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution? As long as it's not discriminatory there is no violation. Indiana just created a law that didn't need creating.

It's no coinkidink that Gov. Pence goes up for re-election next year, and he's one of the large field of possible Prez candidates for the GOP nom. So this will make sure he gets the Jesus vote from the ones still pissed off that gays are allows to have lives and shit. Meh.
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RugerGirl;163684 Wrote:Okay. I'm just gonna say it. I am SICK of the bully tactics of this country. If a state decides to allow religious people to make decisions based on their religion, fine. Why all the bully tactics? Why all the boycotts? Why all the hate towards religion?

I don't care who or why, but if a personally owned business doesn't want to serve ANY person for ANY reason, it should be allowed, without being sued or made to pay fines or go to "anti free speech" training. Guess what...if a Muslim owned business decides it doesn't want to serve me....I'll find a new business. I won't sue. Why would I even care? It's ridiculous. They have that right...it's their property.

Indiana simply wants to protect people and small business owners from large fines and court cases if they simply decide to turn away a client for some reason directly relating to religious principles.

This law is really going to effect very few people, yet they are blowing this thing way out of proportion as if it's some sort of huge anti-gay law. It's not like Indiana is barring gays, or even gay marriage. It's simply protecting religious small business. Not everyone has to like it. Nobody cares that religious people don't like gay marriage...but heaven forbid a gay person or a black person be offended or upset by something..... why does everyone have to be bullied into agreeing with other people's opinions?

As I said....I'm very tired of the bully tactics being used. "Hands up Don't Shoot", or boycotting states, or whatever else. The left is all for free speech and tolerance until it's a white middle class man or a Christian who wants free speech...and THEN, oh THEN, it's racism and hate.

Grrrr.

Not everyone has to like the calls for boycott. I love the irony of crying for the right to be a bigot, followed by crying about the backlash of winning the right to be a bigot.



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(03-30-2015, 08:40 PM)ArcticSplash Wrote:
Uinta Firearms;163689 Wrote:The irony is, that law is much ado about nothing. Did every forget about the 14th Amendment and the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution? As long as it's not discriminatory there is no violation. Indiana just created a law that didn't need creating.

It's no coinkidink that Gov. Pence goes up for re-election next year, and he's one of the large field of possible Prez candidates for the GOP nom. So this will make sure he gets the Jesus vote from the ones still pissed off that gays are allows to have lives and shit. Meh.

This can be spun myriad ways, as this is a prime example. Just as Justin refers to Christians as bigots... True Christians don't hate gays, they also don't condone of their lifestyle, either. The Christian religion, via the Bible, promotes marriage: as defined between a man, a woman, and God, so that they will reproduce, go forth and multiply.... Obviously that cannot happen with gay couples. Also, as so evidenced, as it was in MD, whereby the Gay Community was awarded "Civil Unions", with all of the same legal rights, privileges and appurtenances thereof of heterosexual marriage, but would turn it down, not stopping until it was called Gay Marriage. The point here is, the Church feels the need to defend itself, being under attack by Gay Activism. With less than 7% of the population, consuming better than 90% of the public discourse. The Gay Community, however, wants to use whackadoodles, like the Westbro Baptists, as poster children representing the Christian community. Personally, as a Christian, I have NEVER attended any rally, lobbied any Congressman, even as much as written a letter, as most Christians that I know of have not, denouncing Gays, yet as a Christian, I feel as though Christianity is under constant attack by the Gay Community. The difference here is that there is no "Westbro" sect of the Gay Commumity, for which, I can draw comparison, but rather the Gay Community as a whole. In fact, it's retorts like this that keep me thinking like the bigot I'm alleged to be.
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The thing is.....okay, so gays now legally have the right to change the definition of marriage. Many people aren't happy about it, but...... Fine....so it's legal...okay. Nobody has been boycotted over it.

But a handful of Christians who want the right to not attend a gay wedding and take photographs of the whole thing? Now THAT can't happen...that's not legal....? And if a state says they DO have that right...they're boycotted?

Who has more freedom, here? There is no Constitutional right to buy a cake from a specific baker, but there IS a Constitutional right to practice religion.

Anyway...like I said....this law isn't even going to affect anyone much.....totally not worth a big huge boycott. Much ado over nothing. As usual when it comes to special interest groups in this country.
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