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Inner-Family Pistol Transfer Question
#1
Scenario:

Son-In-Law buys pistol.
Son-In-Law want's to sell pistol to Father-In-Law
Son-In-Law gives pistol to his wife.
His wife gives it to her father.
Done...?Shrug

As far as I can tell, this is one of those loopholes within a loophole.
Does anyone here have any experience with this scenario?
Is a transfer required at any point in this transaction?

Any input is greatly appreciated.
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#2
Just give it to him and be done with it.
I've done the same thing with my FIL & BIL...and my BIL lives in NY.


*OK, gotta clarify, when my BIL got my series 80 we had to take it to a LGS and then he had to wait for it to clear.
FIL is in PA...no problems here.
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#3
Based on what you wrote as to the intended transferer and transferee, find an FFL and have them do it. This has been discussed many times here.

I'm posting this from my phone. I could type out much more but it's a pain.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

William Pitt
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#4
P89;129113 Wrote:Just give it to him and be done with it.
I've done the same thing with my FIL & BIL...and my BIL lives in NY.


*OK, gotta clarify, when my BIL got my series 80 we had to take it to a LGS and then he had to wait for it to clear.
FIL is in PA...no problems here.

In PA, only transfers between parent - child, or grandparent - grandchild, or between spouses, is legal without a FFL. Anything else is illegal.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

William Pitt
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#5
And since your intent has now been stated on the internet in public, giving it to your wife with intent of her giving it to him falls out of grace with the law. As stated already, just go to an FFL and keep life simple.
The law? The law is a human institution...
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#6
First off, to clarify, it's not me... I have no daughter or son-in-law. I have 4 sons, none of which are over the age of 15. So that's in the clear. Someone at work had asked me about it.

I wasn't sure if there was a process because there are 2 legal transfers taking place in a row. There is no paperwork, so there's no "contract" stating intent. It's just a Husband giving a wife a pistol. Period. Then after the wife takes possession of the pistol, and she then owns it, she legally gives it to her father.

I wasn't sure if there's even any skirting going on... it seemed pretty straight forward to me.
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#7
"Intent" can most often be found in the minds of the players, not necessarily on paper. Intent has been clearly established here.
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

William Pitt
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#8
Sorry for assuming there. I hope I didn't come off sounding hostile, I'm just on a mobile and trying to be quick and to the point.

I would still pass along the advice of doing it through an FFL. Simply put, if it were me it would not be worth the trouble if something crazy happened and the police see my name in the sales db and I have to say well I gave it to my wife and she gave it to him.
The law? The law is a human institution...
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#9
Good points, everyone. Thanks for the input!
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#10
Curmudgeon;129121 Wrote:"Intent" can most often be found in the minds of the players, not necessarily on paper. Intent has been clearly established here.

This here dude gots it right. Tell them to pay the $ 30 and transfer at a FFL
Dave, proudly annoying members of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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