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IRS says it cannot locate Lois Lerner emails prior to 2011
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IRS says it cannot locate Lois Lerner emails prior to 2011
Published June 13, 2014
FoxNews.com
ISNT THIS CONVENIENT? das

May 22, 2013: Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner on Capitol Hill in Washington.AP

The Internal Revenue Service told Congress Friday it has lost a trove of emails to and from Lois Lerner, a central figure in the agency's Tea Party controversy, sparking outrage from congressional investigators who have been probing the agency for more than a year.

The IRS said it cannot locate many of Lerner's emails prior to 2011 because her computer crashed during the summer of that year. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/...r-to-2011/
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They should just ask the NSA for a copy Ninja
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Dave;146417 Wrote:They should just ask the NSA for a copy Ninja
Good point. I didnt think of that.
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I'll say it again:

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March 26, 2014
"Backed-Up, Archived and Stored" - IRS Commissioner Koskinen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax6QGmKhRwo



Quote:Internal Revenue Manual Chapter 10 Section 3

1.10.3.2.3 (07-08-2011)
Emails as Possible Federal Records

All federal employees and federal contractors are required by law to preserve records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the agency. Records must be properly stored and preserved, available for retrieval and subject to appropriate approved disposition schedules.

The Federal Records Act applies to email records just as it does to records you create using other media. Emails are records when they are:

Created or received in the transaction of agency business

Appropriate for preservation as evidence of the government’s function and activities, or

Valuable because of the information they contain

If you create or receive email messages during the course of your daily work, you are responsible for ensuring that you manage them properly. The Treasury Department’s current email policy requires emails and attachments that meet the definition of a federal record be added to the organization’s files by printing them (including the essential transmission data) and filing them with related paper records. If transmission and receipt data are not printed by the email system, annotate the paper copy. More information on IRS records management requirements is available at http://erc.web.irs.gov/Displayanswers/Qu...tegoryID=5 or see the Records Management Handbook, IRM 1.15.1

http://publish.no.irs.gov/IRM/P01/PDF/31421A03.PDF).

An email determined to be a federal record may eventually be considered as having historical value by the National Archivist prior to disposal. Therefore, ensure that all your communications are professional in tone.

Please note that maintaining a copy of an email or its attachments within the IRS email MS Outlook application does not meet the requirements of maintaining an official record. Therefore, print and file email and its attachments if they are either permanent records or if they relate to a specific case.

(08-30-2012)
Emails are Subject to FOIA

The public is aware of the role emails play in agency internal operations and emails are included in a growing number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. Emails that are responsive to a FOIA request must be released unless the information contained in the email falls into one of nine very specific categories of exemptions. (See IRM 11.3.13 for more on FOIA processing). There is no category of exemption to protect the author or the Service from embarrassment.

Emails provided in response to a FOIA must include the addressee, date and time. The address list, date and time are considered part of the record for both FOIA and record management purposes.

Do not delete a message or attachment that is the subject of a congressional, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), or discovery request or that is needed for litigation.

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-010-003.html

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Even if the above procedure was not preformed and the emails are irretrievable from her workstation they are sent through an email server that has to retain a copy.
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kadar;146426 Wrote:March 26, 2014
"Backed-Up, Archived and Stored" - IRS Commissioner Koskinen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax6QGmKhRwo



Quote:Internal Revenue Manual Chapter 10 Section 3

1.10.3.2.3 (07-08-2011)
Emails as Possible Federal Records

All federal employees and federal contractors are required by law to preserve records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the agency. Records must be properly stored and preserved, available for retrieval and subject to appropriate approved disposition schedules.

The Federal Records Act applies to email records just as it does to records you create using other media. Emails are records when they are:

Created or received in the transaction of agency business

Appropriate for preservation as evidence of the government’s function and activities, or

Valuable because of the information they contain

If you create or receive email messages during the course of your daily work, you are responsible for ensuring that you manage them properly. The Treasury Department’s current email policy requires emails and attachments that meet the definition of a federal record be added to the organization’s files by printing them (including the essential transmission data) and filing them with related paper records. If transmission and receipt data are not printed by the email system, annotate the paper copy. More information on IRS records management requirements is available at http://erc.web.irs.gov/Displayanswers/Qu...tegoryID=5 or see the Records Management Handbook, IRM 1.15.1

http://publish.no.irs.gov/IRM/P01/PDF/31421A03.PDF).

An email determined to be a federal record may eventually be considered as having historical value by the National Archivist prior to disposal. Therefore, ensure that all your communications are professional in tone.

Please note that maintaining a copy of an email or its attachments within the IRS email MS Outlook application does not meet the requirements of maintaining an official record. Therefore, print and file email and its attachments if they are either permanent records or if they relate to a specific case.

(08-30-2012)
Emails are Subject to FOIA

The public is aware of the role emails play in agency internal operations and emails are included in a growing number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. Emails that are responsive to a FOIA request must be released unless the information contained in the email falls into one of nine very specific categories of exemptions. (See IRM 11.3.13 for more on FOIA processing). There is no category of exemption to protect the author or the Service from embarrassment.

Emails provided in response to a FOIA must include the addressee, date and time. The address list, date and time are considered part of the record for both FOIA and record management purposes.

Do not delete a message or attachment that is the subject of a congressional, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), or discovery request or that is needed for litigation.

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-010-003.html

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Even if the above procedure was not preformed and the emails are irretrievable from her workstation they are sent through an email server that has to retain a copy.

Actually, three redundant servers with tape backup. And even if her hard drive had crashed, it would still be able to be recovered by computer forensics.

If her hard drive, all 3 servers, tape backup, and print hard copy have all disappeared then you absolutely have evidence of conspiracy.

As I have said before, I do not believe government employees should be able to invoke the 5th amendment when it pertains to questions about their job and what they have done while on the job. Lerner should be in a cell and her pension held until she testifies, and as punishment for her contempt, her pension should be withheld until the end of any and all investigations into the matter.
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I suppose they lost all of the emails on the recipient's computers too, huh?

I bet the computers of everybody who corresponded with her crashed too. That's some shitty IT right there, I tell ya. Ninja
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Several weeks ago, I lost a file at work. Two days later, our IT department had it fully restored...
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