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Is the dhs itching for a fight?
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November 1st could be a very, very iffy day.

This could be ‘all hell breaks lose’ day.

The Department of Homeland Security is spending $80 million on a wrath of armed guards to protect the IRS and other government buildings in New York, not from terrorist threats mind you, but from American citizens because on November 1st the food stamp program is set to start decreasing the amount that is allocated to food stamp recipients… and they’re worried that violence will ensue.

I guess they’re preparing for the worst…

http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-prepar...y_10282013
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#2
Yeah, November has the potential to be an interesting month, to say the least. Besides the SNAP benefits being reduced, there's also a lot of talk about major grid-down drills. One has to wonder, with the shelves about to be ransacked, and possible power outages... what exactly are we looking forward to here? Keep in mind, people are going to START the month with their reduced benefits, fast forward 2 weeks to when they've blown it all and ate most of their food... right about the time the grid-down drills are supposed to happen.

The other week when the SNAP system "went down" for half a day, stores experienced heavy theft, the beginning stages of looting, fights, and all out chaos in the first few hours. Now, turn the power off and amp up the fear-factor... could November be the next big test for the big one? A lot of people's survival instincts are going to kick in at the same time a lot of people's greed will be kicking in. The civility is going to go out the window completely in some areas.
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pinhead1979;123480 Wrote:The other week when the SNAP system "went down" for half a day, stores experienced heavy theft, the beginning stages of looting, fights, and all out chaos in the first few hours.

I didn't read any of this. The worst I saw was people filling their carts and then abandoning them when they found out that they were not 'unlimited' with spending anymore.
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#4
I hope they have enough ammo to deal with the situation.
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#5
The government created the problem, so to Hell with them!
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Camper;123481 Wrote:
pinhead1979;123480 Wrote:The other week when the SNAP system "went down" for half a day, stores experienced heavy theft, the beginning stages of looting, fights, and all out chaos in the first few hours.

I didn't read any of this. The worst I saw was people filling their carts and then abandoning them when they found out that they were not 'unlimited' with spending anymore.

Yeah I read about the abandoned carts too. I remember reading (wish I could find the article) about a store having issues with people being told the system was down, and some of them just leaving with the food like it was owed to them by the store.

The stores were being cleaned out because it was like a free for all. A lot of the carts were just left sit in the checkout lanes and aisles. And in the turmoil and bitching there were fights between shoppers and store workers. Needless to say it wasn't exactly an LA riots situation, but there were signs that it could get real ugly, real quick. When folks believe they're owed something and they don't get it, they get defensive, and potentially offensive, relatively quick.

If the SNAP system wouldn't have come back online for like 72 hours or so, there would have been a LOT more problems.
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pinhead1979;123486 Wrote:The stores were being cleaned out because it was like a free for all. A lot of the carts were just left sit in the checkout lanes and aisles. And in the turmoil and bitching there were fights between shoppers and store workers. Needless to say it wasn't exactly an LA riots situation, but there were signs that it could get real ugly, real quick. When folks believe they're owed something and they don't get it, they get defensive, and potentially offensive, relatively quick.

If the SNAP system wouldn't have come back online for like 72 hours or so, there would have been a LOT more problems.

I'm not making the connection that there will be wide-spread riots due to the previous glitch. I expect great wailing and gnashing of teeth, but we shall see how that all pans out.

The issue from a few weeks ago was that cards had either unlimited spending, or some insane figure on their card that would let them purchase massive quantities of crap. They were "gettin while the gettin was good", so I take that as different circumstances.

Also, the SNAP benefits that are being cut equate to a MAXIMUM of $36 per month for a family of 4.

I'm sorry, I don't see mass riots with this. Lots of pissed off people that Obama will point at Republicans guaranteeing that Dems won't need to bribe nearly as many people to vote Democrat for next election, but nowhere near enough of an amount to cause widespread rioting.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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Camper;123487 Wrote:
pinhead1979;123486 Wrote:The stores were being cleaned out because it was like a free for all. A lot of the carts were just left sit in the checkout lanes and aisles. And in the turmoil and bitching there were fights between shoppers and store workers. Needless to say it wasn't exactly an LA riots situation, but there were signs that it could get real ugly, real quick. When folks believe they're owed something and they don't get it, they get defensive, and potentially offensive, relatively quick.

If the SNAP system wouldn't have come back online for like 72 hours or so, there would have been a LOT more problems.

I'm not making the connection that there will be wide-spread riots due to the previous glitch. I expect great wailing and gnashing of teeth, but we shall see how that all pans out.

The issue from a few weeks ago was that cards had either unlimited spending, or some insane figure on their card that would let them purchase massive quantities of crap. They were "gettin while the gettin was good", so I take that as different circumstances.

Also, the SNAP benefits that are being cut equate to a MAXIMUM of $36 per month for a family of 4.

I'm sorry, I don't see mass riots with this. Lots of pissed off people that Obama will point at Republicans guaranteeing that Dems won't need to bribe nearly as many people to vote Democrat for next election, but nowhere near enough of an amount to cause widespread rioting.

I see your point, I'm mainly stating that sometimes small shit can spark huge issues. The LA riots were sparked over one over-publicized police brutality incident (remember Reginald Denny? He didn't beat anyone). The media controls the social movements. And when anger is involved in a social movement, it spreads even faster.

I'm not saying it is going to happen either, but when the media says "look what those terrible republicans did, they took food out of your kids' mouths" there's going to be folks out there that have no problem taking that out on the wrong people. Regardless of what is true, someone is going to be blamed. It doesn't take but a single spark to start a big fire.
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#9
Damn! And we were just getting over the Oct 1 crackdown Rolleyes
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#10
Just be sure when it is "time" somebody posts about it here otherwise I will never know that it's happening.
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