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Is This Possible?
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The guy that dates the girl across the street is claiming that the sear broke on his 1911 AS he was holstering it and it discharged and shot a hole through the floor and broke glass shelves on the first floor. I know sears can break but that seems a bit odd to me or and I wrong? I believe it is a Kimber he has.
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#2
Seems possible in a totally wild ass never going to happen kind of way. Quick Google foo shows people theorizing about it happening but no real life reported occurrences.

Don't Kimbers have a firing ping block which makes it impossible to discharge without the trigger being pulled?

Expert on the subject I am not.
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csmith;155216 Wrote:Seems possible in a totally wild ass never going to happen kind of way. Quick Google foo shows people theorizing about it happening but no real life reported occurrences.

Don't Kimbers have a firing ping block which makes it impossible to discharge without the trigger being pulled?

Expert on the subject I am not.
Im no expert either and this is a guy that thinks he has all the answers, I avoid him at all costs. If the gun is cocked and locked even if the sear broke wouldnt you need to have the grip safety depressed? Im asking because I dont know.
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Well that part depends. Normally the grip safety only blocks the trigger bow. As i understand it the Kimber firing pin block is tied in with the grip safety. After doing more reading apparently not all Kimbers have a firing pin block, only the "series II" models.

The reason I saw cited for a sear failure being so outlandish is that the sear itself is under so little stress even with the hammer cocked.
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#5
my colt had nothing between the sear and the firing pin, so I would go with possible, but not probable..

But then again i don't know what 1911 "as" means.

looking at mine i can't imagine it ever letting go unless it had a bad trigger job.
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#6
Idiots can do just about anything.
Even given my basic knowledge of the 1911 it seems unlikely.


Tell us more about the girl across the street...Big Grin
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51158;155222 Wrote:looking at mine i can't imagine it ever letting go unless it had a bad trigger job.

This.

If the guy's a know-it-all he probably took a file to it. God knows what-all else he screwed up in there with his "gun-smithing."

csmith;155216 Wrote:Expert on the subject I am not.

Force used should have he.
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P89;155223 Wrote:Idiots can do just about anything.
Even given my basic knowledge of the 1911 it seems unlikely.


Tell us more about the girl across the street...Big Grin
Its not a pretty sight.

gascolator;155225 Wrote:
51158;155222 Wrote:looking at mine i can't imagine it ever letting go unless it had a bad trigger job.

This.

If the guy's a know-it-all he probably took a file to it. God knows what-all else he screwed up in there with his "gun-smithing."

csmith;155216 Wrote:Expert on the subject I am not.

Force used should have he.
I think you are right. I would bet he took a file to it and screwed it up.
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das;155227 Wrote:
P89;155223 Wrote:Idiots can do just about anything.
Even given my basic knowledge of the 1911 it seems unlikely.


Tell us more about the girl across the street...Big Grin
Its not a pretty sight.

gascolator;155225 Wrote:This.

If the guy's a know-it-all he probably took a file to it. God knows what-all else he screwed up in there with his "gun-smithing."


Force used should have he.
I think you are right. I would bet he took a file to it and screwed it up.

If the sear broke, then I would think that the half cock notch would catch it, buuut, not necessarily. I would be more inclined to think that the guy was probably fiddling with it when he was holstering it and he had a ND. He may not have even been holstering it but that makes for a more exciting story than he f***ed up playing with it.
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#10
It takes a boatload of shooting to make a sear or disconnector fail on a 191. But only a few moments for an idiot with a dremel tool to kill those parts. Even if it is the dreaded MIM parts.

More like the owner was trying to lighten the trigger pull but got a bit too gung ho on stoning down the sear/hammer engagement.

My money is on re-holstering without putting the thumb safety on, and putting the trigger finger inside while re-holstering.
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