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Forgive me if I cannot fnd an ounce of sympathy for all these "college grads" with little to no real world experience, lifetime full of debt, over paid job demanding victims of the modern day indoctrination from todays schooling who can't get some obscure pencil pushing job making six figures without actually working for everything that they have because mommy and daddy will buy them everything and the world owes them.

College, ain't what it used to get you. Now, they just pump out obama voters.


*rant over
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Mr_Gixxer;98818 Wrote:Forgive me if I cannot fnd an ounce of sympathy for all these "college grads" with little to no real world experience, lifetime full of debt, over paid job demanding victims of the modern day indoctrination from todays schooling who can't get some obscure pencil pushing job making six figures without actually working for everything that they have because mommy and daddy will buy them everything and the world owes them.

College, ain't what it used to get you. Now, they just pump out obama voters.


*rant over

If this is directed to me, then piss off. I've been working full time since I was in high school. Real life experience? I've worked full time, gone to school full time, and did a 30 hour a week internship. I've spent many nights staying up late while studying, doing projects, or writing papers and getting 1 or 2 hours of sleep. I worked my fucking ass off in college and graduated with honors and won an award in my field of study at my graduation because of my hard work. I don't expect a 6 figure salary, an easy job, or a mansion and fast car out of school. I ACKNOWLEDGE I STILL HAVE A LOT TO LEARN. What I do expect is an entry level job where I can start at the bottom, do the hard work nobody wants to do, and learn from other people who have been doing that job longer than I have. I can't help it if a bunch of fucking politicians can't effectively run a country or promote a healthy economy. Every time a new tax, law, or regulation goes into affect, then the economy loses jobs and money. Here's another life lesson for you: IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON FOR A JOB, IT'S ALL ABOUT WHO YOU KNOW. In this economy NETWORKING is what gets you jobs, promotions, etc. I just want to EVENTUALLY get a DECENT house, drive a DECENT vehicle, and be able to provide my family with what they need while CONTINUING TO WORK MY ASS OFF AND BE PROUD OF THAT.

*rant over
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Philadelphia Patriot;98821 Wrote:
Mr_Gixxer;98818 Wrote:Forgive me if I cannot fnd an ounce of sympathy for all these "college grads" with little to no real world experience, lifetime full of debt, over paid job demanding victims of the modern day indoctrination from todays schooling who can't get some obscure pencil pushing job making six figures without actually working for everything that they have because mommy and daddy will buy them everything and the world owes them.

College, ain't what it used to get you. Now, they just pump out obama voters.


*rant over

If this is directed to me, then piss off. I've been working full time since I was in high school. Real life experience? I've worked full time, gone to school full time, and did a 30 hour a week internship. I've spent many nights staying up late while studying, doing projects, or writing papers and getting 1 or 2 hours of sleep. I worked my fucking ass off in college and graduated with honors and won an award in my field of study at my graduation because of my hard work. I don't expect a 6 figure salary, an easy job, or a mansion and fast car out of school. I ACKNOWLEDGE I STILL HAVE A LOT TO LEARN. What I do expect is an entry level job where I can start at the bottom, do the hard work nobody wants to do, and learn from other people who have been doing that job longer than I have. I can't help it if a bunch of fucking politicians can't effectively run a country or promote a healthy economy. Every time a new tax, law, or regulation goes into affect, then the economy loses jobs and money. Here's another life lesson for you: IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON FOR A JOB, IT'S ALL ABOUT WHO YOU KNOW. In this economy NETWORKING is what gets you jobs, promotions, etc. I just want to EVENTUALLY get a DECENT house, drive a DECENT vehicle, and be able to provide my family with what they need while CONTINUING TO WORK MY ASS OFF AND BE PROUD OF THAT.

*rant over

This was by no means directed to you or anyone here, this was directed to the countless "holier than thou college grads". I have no doubt that you like many others have put their time in to get where they want to be and I like to think that I have done the same. It's been my experience that the majority of today's college grads expect to have life served to them on a silver platter simply because they are cocky enough to think they are better than the guy who put his own sweat blood and tears into a profession to make a decent living.
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Mr_Gixxer;98824 Wrote:
Philadelphia Patriot;98821 Wrote:If this is directed to me, then piss off. I've been working full time since I was in high school. Real life experience? I've worked full time, gone to school full time, and did a 30 hour a week internship. I've spent many nights staying up late while studying, doing projects, or writing papers and getting 1 or 2 hours of sleep. I worked my fucking ass off in college and graduated with honors and won an award in my field of study at my graduation because of my hard work. I don't expect a 6 figure salary, an easy job, or a mansion and fast car out of school. I ACKNOWLEDGE I STILL HAVE A LOT TO LEARN. What I do expect is an entry level job where I can start at the bottom, do the hard work nobody wants to do, and learn from other people who have been doing that job longer than I have. I can't help it if a bunch of fucking politicians can't effectively run a country or promote a healthy economy. Every time a new tax, law, or regulation goes into affect, then the economy loses jobs and money. Here's another life lesson for you: IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON FOR A JOB, IT'S ALL ABOUT WHO YOU KNOW. In this economy NETWORKING is what gets you jobs, promotions, etc. I just want to EVENTUALLY get a DECENT house, drive a DECENT vehicle, and be able to provide my family with what they need while CONTINUING TO WORK MY ASS OFF AND BE PROUD OF THAT.

*rant over

This was by no means directed to you or anyone here, this was directed to the countless "holier than thou college grads". I have no doubt that you like many others have put their time in to get where they want to be and I like to think that I have done the same. It's been my experience that the majority of today's college grads expect to have life served to them on a silver platter simply because they are cocky enough to think they are better than the guy who put his own sweat blood and tears into a profession to make a decent living.

Sorry about that, but I'm tired of hearing the all college kids are lazy and spoiled speeches (which now I know you meant not all, but A LOT). I'm going to say 50% of the problem is college kids expecting an easy ride out of college and the other 50% of the problem is college professors not entirely preparing students for the real world and not being honest with them on what they should expect post-graduation.

What I think is stupid is the whole notion that everybody needs to go to college after high school. I talked this over with a close friend of mine and we both agreed after going through college and entering the "real world" that's not true. We have a lot of friends who were heading down bad paths, but went into the military and turned their lives around for the better. I also have many friends who are electricians, carpenters, etc. and earn a really good living.

Another reason for so many college grads without jobs in their field is also because when you're 18, fresh out of high school, you usually declare your major for college. 18 year olds don't know half the stuff 25 year olds know. I think for a lot of students, it's pretty hard to plan out your life at the age of 18. If it wasn't for my asthma, I probably would have went into the military after high school, serve the 4-6 years (whatever my contract would have been), and then go to college afterwards while working full time or if I enjoyed the military so much I would try to do ROTC while in college and then go back to active duty.

Like I stated before, I think the biggest problem is our elected officials fucking up the economy. Every tax, law, or regulation kills jobs and money. Look at how many jobs Obamacare is going to cost. If we had more of a free market system then you would see a lot more younger people taking risks to start their own businesses. However now banks don't give out loans as easily, a lot of people also need to get the money to hire lawyers to do the legal work for them, and some might even need an accountant. All of these things cost a lot of money, money that young people don't have.

Again, sorry for attacking you, but this problem is a little more complex than most people think.
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Mr_Gixxer;98818 Wrote:Forgive me if I cannot fnd an ounce of sympathy for all these "college grads" with little to no real world experience, lifetime full of debt, over paid job demanding victims of the modern day indoctrination from todays schooling who can't get some obscure pencil pushing job making six figures without actually working for everything that they have because mommy and daddy will buy them everything and the world owes them.

College, ain't what it used to get you. Now, they just pump out obama voters.


*rant over
I realize this isnt directed at anyone in particular, but I just want to say me piece on this issue.

As a current student in the engineering field all I want right now is to pass my damn classes this semester so I can continue to advance through the curriculum and graduate within 1-2 extra semesters. After that all I ask is that a company is willing to take a chance on me and give me a job pertaining to my field of study. I dont care whether it is the bitch position for engineering as long as I am not working at walmart after receiving a 100k degree.

I expect to start at the bottom and learn from those with more experience with me. Though I do plan to climb that proverbial ladder as fast as I can just because it will satisfy me to achieve the next step.

I just ask for a chance to show that I am willing to learn and work hard.

Hoping that when I graduate there are more companies hiring and looking for engineers.
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