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Johnson Campaign: PAGOP’s PI Posed as FBI Agent, Bribed Witnesses
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Yes, the GOP is just as crooked as the Dems.

http://www.politicspa.com/johnson-campai...ses/42098/

An attorney for Libertarian Gary Johnson’s presidential campaign is accusing a private investigator hired by the Pa. Republican party of “Watergate-style dirty tricks,” related to a recent ballot challenge.

In a letter to Philadelphia District Attorney Seth Williams obtained by PoliticsPA, Johnson General Counsel Alicia Dearn alleges that an agent of the PAGOP posed as an law enforcement official and attempted to bribe or intimidate witnesses.

“This information warrants serious investigation because the reported acts constitute felonies and show a scandalous level of illegal activity by the Pennsylvania Republican Party, if any of them are proven beyond a reasonable doubt,” wrote Dearn, an attorney based in California.

Each of half a dozen witnesses, Dearn wrote, was approached by a man showing a badge and “giving the implied or express impression” that he was an FBI agent. He allegedly sought to pressure the circulators into testifying that they had falsified signatures on Johnson’s behalf.

The PAGOP helped to coordinate the challenge of tens of thousands of petition signatures in an effort to disqualify Johnson, the former Governor of New Mexico, from the presidential ballot in Pa. A judge ruled 3 weeks ago that enough of Johnson’s petitions are valid and he will remain on the ballot; the matter has been appealed.

Johnson’s campaign hired a firm to collect the necessary signatures. During the course of his investigation, Dearn alleges, Reynold Selvaggio, a New Jersey PI hired by the Pa. GOP sought to intimidate those hired petition circulators.

“This man, identified by some of the witnesses as Reynold Selvaggio, offered petitioners money (the sum reported by most witnesses was $2000) and other benefits to testify that they had falsified signatures. He also threatened the petitioners with prosecution if they did not testify to falsifying signatures,” wrote Dearn. A list of specific witness accounts is included in her letter (full copy below).

She said the she, as well as several of the witnesses she cites in her letter, are willing to participate in an investigation.

The Pa. Republican Party dismissed the allegations. “The claims are baseless. The fact remains that the Libertarians have stipulated that tens of thousands of signatures they submitted were riddled with fraud and errors,” said spokeswoman Valerie Caras. “This is simply a distraction from their own questionable activities.”

Selvaggio testified in court on behalf of the Pa. Republican Party during the Johnson hearing. PoliticsPA is seeking comment from him.

Here is Dearn’s full letter....click on link to read it.
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bucksco;19774 Wrote:Yes, the GOP is just as crooked as the Dems.

http://www.politicspa.com/johnson-campai...ses/42098/

An attorney for Libertarian Gary Johnson’s presidential campaign is accusing a private investigator hired by the Pa. Republican party of “Watergate-style dirty tricks,” related to a recent ballot challenge.

In a letter to Philadelphia District Attorney Seth Williams obtained by PoliticsPA, Johnson General Counsel Alicia Dearn alleges that an agent of the PAGOP posed as an law enforcement official and attempted to bribe or intimidate witnesses.

“This information warrants serious investigation because the reported acts constitute felonies and show a scandalous level of illegal activity by the Pennsylvania Republican Party, if any of them are proven beyond a reasonable doubt,” wrote Dearn, an attorney based in California.

Each of half a dozen witnesses, Dearn wrote, was approached by a man showing a badge and “giving the implied or express impression” that he was an FBI agent. He allegedly sought to pressure the circulators into testifying that they had falsified signatures on Johnson’s behalf.

The PAGOP helped to coordinate the challenge of tens of thousands of petition signatures in an effort to disqualify Johnson, the former Governor of New Mexico, from the presidential ballot in Pa. A judge ruled 3 weeks ago that enough of Johnson’s petitions are valid and he will remain on the ballot; the matter has been appealed.

Johnson’s campaign hired a firm to collect the necessary signatures. During the course of his investigation, Dearn alleges, Reynold Selvaggio, a New Jersey PI hired by the Pa. GOP sought to intimidate those hired petition circulators.

“This man, identified by some of the witnesses as Reynold Selvaggio, offered petitioners money (the sum reported by most witnesses was $2000) and other benefits to testify that they had falsified signatures. He also threatened the petitioners with prosecution if they did not testify to falsifying signatures,” wrote Dearn. A list of specific witness accounts is included in her letter (full copy below).

She said the she, as well as several of the witnesses she cites in her letter, are willing to participate in an investigation.

The Pa. Republican Party dismissed the allegations. “The claims are baseless. The fact remains that the Libertarians have stipulated that tens of thousands of signatures they submitted were riddled with fraud and errors,” said spokeswoman Valerie Caras. “This is simply a distraction from their own questionable activities.”

Selvaggio testified in court on behalf of the Pa. Republican Party during the Johnson hearing. PoliticsPA is seeking comment from him.

Here is Dearn’s full letter....click on link to read it.

Sorry. I'm not seeing where the evidence supports the conclusion. You mean both parties contain human beings? If so, I agree.
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ByblosHex;19786 Wrote:
bucksco;19774 Wrote:Yes, the GOP is just as crooked as the Dems.

http://www.politicspa.com/johnson-campai...ses/42098/

An attorney for Libertarian Gary Johnson’s presidential campaign is accusing a private investigator hired by the Pa. Republican party of “Watergate-style dirty tricks,” related to a recent ballot challenge.

In a letter to Philadelphia District Attorney Seth Williams obtained by PoliticsPA, Johnson General Counsel Alicia Dearn alleges that an agent of the PAGOP posed as an law enforcement official and attempted to bribe or intimidate witnesses.

“This information warrants serious investigation because the reported acts constitute felonies and show a scandalous level of illegal activity by the Pennsylvania Republican Party, if any of them are proven beyond a reasonable doubt,” wrote Dearn, an attorney based in California.

Each of half a dozen witnesses, Dearn wrote, was approached by a man showing a badge and “giving the implied or express impression” that he was an FBI agent. He allegedly sought to pressure the circulators into testifying that they had falsified signatures on Johnson’s behalf.

The PAGOP helped to coordinate the challenge of tens of thousands of petition signatures in an effort to disqualify Johnson, the former Governor of New Mexico, from the presidential ballot in Pa. A judge ruled 3 weeks ago that enough of Johnson’s petitions are valid and he will remain on the ballot; the matter has been appealed.

Johnson’s campaign hired a firm to collect the necessary signatures. During the course of his investigation, Dearn alleges, Reynold Selvaggio, a New Jersey PI hired by the Pa. GOP sought to intimidate those hired petition circulators.

“This man, identified by some of the witnesses as Reynold Selvaggio, offered petitioners money (the sum reported by most witnesses was $2000) and other benefits to testify that they had falsified signatures. He also threatened the petitioners with prosecution if they did not testify to falsifying signatures,” wrote Dearn. A list of specific witness accounts is included in her letter (full copy below).

She said the she, as well as several of the witnesses she cites in her letter, are willing to participate in an investigation.

The Pa. Republican Party dismissed the allegations. “The claims are baseless. The fact remains that the Libertarians have stipulated that tens of thousands of signatures they submitted were riddled with fraud and errors,” said spokeswoman Valerie Caras. “This is simply a distraction from their own questionable activities.”

Selvaggio testified in court on behalf of the Pa. Republican Party during the Johnson hearing. PoliticsPA is seeking comment from him.

Here is Dearn’s full letter....click on link to read it.

Sorry. I'm not seeing where the evidence supports the conclusion.
You mean both parties contain human beings? If so, I agree.

Based on your other post I've read over the past couple of weeks I understand you are a pom-pom waiving GOP cheerleader, I get that.

But if you put the pom-poms down for 1 minute and do a little research you will see a long list of corrupt bullshit from the most recent GOP primary elections, the GOP blocking Maine's delegates at the RNC, the delegate bus hijacking before the rules committee meeting during the RNC, the scripted vote on rule changes (yes, everything was read from a teleprompter), etc. etc, etc. These are not isolated incidences.

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are way more traditional Republican, not in a neoconservative talk radio kind of way (look it up if you dont know the difference between a neo-con and a paleoconservative is), than Mitt Romney.

BTW did you figure out Lindsey Graham is a dude yet? I mean cheerleaders should at least know the people they are cheering for right? Shrug
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bucksco;19812 Wrote:
ByblosHex;19786 Wrote:
Sorry. I'm not seeing where the evidence supports the conclusion.
You mean both parties contain human beings? If so, I agree.

Based on your other post I've read over the past couple of weeks I understand you are a pom-pom waiving GOP cheerleader, I get that.

But if you put the pom-poms down for 1 minute and do a little research you will see a long list of corrupt bullshit from the most recent GOP primary elections, the GOP blocking Maine's delegates at the RNC, the delegate bus hijacking before the rules committee meeting during the RNC, the scripted vote on rule changes (yes, everything was read from a teleprompter), etc. etc, etc. These are not isolated incidences.

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are way more traditional Republican, not in a neoconservative talk radio kind of way (look it up if you dont know the difference between a neo-con and a paleoconservative is), than Mitt Romney.

BTW did you figure out Lindsey Graham is a dude yet? I mean cheerleaders should at least know the people they are cheering for right? Shrug

Another unsupported conclusion. I am not, nor have I ever been a Republican. Though the Republicans must be doing something right if you're going to immediately assume they represent me.

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson aren't on the ballot for election. So, it doesn't really matter how republican or conservative they may be.

I'm sure there are corrupt people in the Republican party. Just like in any other gigantic innumerable group of people. There are corrupt people in the US Marines, there are corrupt people in the Catholic church, in the Atheistic movement. Everywhere. To label an entire organization as being corrupt based on the fact that corrupt persons exist within it is a false conclusion. Whether or not an entire organization is corrupt depends on that group's ideals, their platform, their charter. Not any amount of corrupt individuals. They corrupt themselves, not half the country.

And I'm still not a Republican.
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ByblosHex;20109 Wrote:
bucksco;19812 Wrote:Based on your other post I've read over the past couple of weeks I understand you are a pom-pom waiving GOP cheerleader, I get that.

But if you put the pom-poms down for 1 minute and do a little research you will see a long list of corrupt bullshit from the most recent GOP primary elections, the GOP blocking Maine's delegates at the RNC, the delegate bus hijacking before the rules committee meeting during the RNC, the scripted vote on rule changes (yes, everything was read from a teleprompter), etc. etc, etc. These are not isolated incidences.

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are way more traditional Republican, not in a neoconservative talk radio kind of way (look it up if you dont know the difference between a neo-con and a paleoconservative is), than Mitt Romney.

BTW did you figure out Lindsey Graham is a dude yet? I mean cheerleaders should at least know the people they are cheering for right? Shrug

Another unsupported conclusion. I am not, nor have I ever been a Republican. Though the Republicans must be doing something right if you're going to immediately assume they represent me.

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson aren't on the ballot for election. So, it doesn't really matter how republican or conservative they may be.

I'm sure there are corrupt people in the Republican party. Just like in any other gigantic innumerable group of people. There are corrupt people in the US Marines, there are corrupt people in the Catholic church, in the Atheistic movement. Everywhere. To label an entire organization as being corrupt based on the fact that corrupt persons exist within it is a false conclusion. Whether or not an entire organization is corrupt depends on that group's ideals, their platform, their charter. Not any amount of corrupt individuals. They corrupt themselves, not half the country.

And I'm still not a Republican.

Again do some research. Gary Johnson will be on the ballot in ALL 50 STATES in November. The GOP have been employing dirty tactics to keep him off the ballot in several states, PA being one of those.

I didnt say you were a registered republican, I said you were a republican cheerleader based on just about every political post you've posted on this site. It's not much of an assumption if I can pull up a list of your posts lol. Shrug
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bucksco;20114 Wrote:
ByblosHex;20109 Wrote:Another unsupported conclusion. I am not, nor have I ever been a Republican. Though the Republicans must be doing something right if you're going to immediately assume they represent me.

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson aren't on the ballot for election. So, it doesn't really matter how republican or conservative they may be.

I'm sure there are corrupt people in the Republican party. Just like in any other gigantic innumerable group of people. There are corrupt people in the US Marines, there are corrupt people in the Catholic church, in the Atheistic movement. Everywhere. To label an entire organization as being corrupt based on the fact that corrupt persons exist within it is a false conclusion. Whether or not an entire organization is corrupt depends on that group's ideals, their platform, their charter. Not any amount of corrupt individuals. They corrupt themselves, not half the country.

And I'm still not a Republican.

Again do some research. Gary Johnson will be on the ballot in ALL 50 STATES in November. The GOP have been employing dirty tactics to keep him off the ballot in several states, PA being one of those.

I didnt say you were a registered republican, I said you were a republican cheerleader based on just about every political post you've posted on this site. It's not much of an assumption if I can pull up a list of your posts lol. Shrug

I'm not a Republican cheerleader. I couldn't care less which party Romney represents. I'm a realist, and while Paul and Johnson have absolutely no chance of being elected in this election Romney does and to be perfectly honest; I think he's more qualified than either of them to be the president. That doesn't mean I like him more or agree with him more frequently. Absolutely not. Like I said in every other related topic it doesn't matter who is perfect for 'me' what matters is who is going to represent enough of us well enough to be an effective and beneficial president. Paul or Johnson may represent me more specifically than Romney, but either of those men will represent fewer Americans and therefor be a less effective president and less likely victor. The more extreme and specific a candidate is, the fewer people he represents accurately. Someone like Romney represents more of us on more things outside of the gun community than Paul or Johnson.

We don't need a champion of civil or social issues as our president, we need them in Congress. We need a good, flexible and capable leader for president. Someone with a strong and solid economic record and having fantastic bi-partisan negotiating ability. You think Paul or Johnson could function with an 86% Democratic Congress? I don't think so. Not only can Romney actually accomplish things, take a look at Massachusetts financial record before and after Romney. Take a look at their education. Take a look at anything that isn't a civil or social issue. He represents me in every tangible aspect that a president should. He can accomplish things that neither Paul or Johnson could even if elected with or without a supportive congress as he's already demonstrated. I don't care what colour his tie is either. He's just not a Democrat because he isn't brain-damaged.

We need civil and social champions like Paul and Johnson in Congress, state and federal. We need intelligent and reasonable leaders as Presidents and Governors. I'm confident Romney would've signed our Pa Castle Doctrine if he were our Governor all the while doing more for our State's education and economy than Corbett. If Romney can accomplish so much with an 86% Democratic Congress he can accomplish so much more with a Republican Congress.

We need people like Paul and Johnson to draft and vote on beneficial bills and people like Romney to design and sign them. People who can actually get elected. I watched the debate and I'll tell you what; that was the first time I ever felt inspired by a now living politician. I agree with Paul, I agree with Johnson but they never inspired me. When Romney while speaking to an audience of 67 million Americans and pointed to that Constitution and Declaration as the source of our Government's power and mission I was inspired. He stands for our Constitution and Declaration and as a president that's the best we can ask for. To me, the choice is black & white. Nothing in between.

I don't know who Lindsey Graham is, and never cheered for him/her.
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ByblosHex;20122 Wrote:He stands for our Constitution and Declaration and as a president that's the best we can ask for. To me, the choice is black & white. Nothing in between.

I don't know who Lindsey Graham is, and never cheered for him/her.

He supports NDAA and the Patriot Act. Both of those are in direct opposition to our founding doctrines.
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TheWolff;20148 Wrote:
ByblosHex;20122 Wrote:He stands for our Constitution and Declaration and as a president that's the best we can ask for. To me, the choice is black & white. Nothing in between.

I don't know who Lindsey Graham is, and never cheered for him/her.

He supports NDAA and the Patriot Act. Both of those are in direct opposition to our founding doctrines.

You're going to have to be more specific if you expect a response. Also, a small fragment of my post is not intended to be taken on it's own without the paragraph in it's entirety. Because the preceding sentences go hand in hand with the single sentence you decided to single out.
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ByblosHex;20149 Wrote:
TheWolff;20148 Wrote:He supports NDAA and the Patriot Act. Both of those are in direct opposition to our founding doctrines.

You're going to have to be more specific if you expect a response. Also, a small fragment of my post is not intended to be taken on it's own without the paragraph in it's entirety. Because the preceding sentences go hand in hand with the single sentence you decided to single out.

I don't care if you respond or not. The portion I quoted is the part that I'm responding to. I've made these arguments to you before and you refuse to listen, so this response is for anyone reading with an open mind.

NDAA allows the military to arrest and indefinitely detain (without judicial process) anyone they suspect of being a terrorist. They don't have to make a case to anyone, they can legally just arrest you and take you to Gitmo forever if they define whatever you're doing as being suspect of terrorism. I'm sure you've seen the Homeland Security memos circulating that define a lot of the behaviors of people on this site as domestic terrorists. Obama (with overwhelming bipartisan support) signed this into law and Romney agrees with it. This is NOT the vision our founding fathers had. They warned about a standing Army and using the military against the citizenry.

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TheWolff;20158 Wrote:
ByblosHex;20149 Wrote:You're going to have to be more specific if you expect a response. Also, a small fragment of my post is not intended to be taken on it's own without the paragraph in it's entirety. Because the preceding sentences go hand in hand with the single sentence you decided to single out.

I don't care if you respond or not. The portion I quoted is the part that I'm responding to. I've made these arguments to you before and you refuse to listen, so this response is for anyone reading with an open mind.

NDAA allows the military to arrest and indefinitely detain (without judicial process) anyone they suspect of being a terrorist. They don't have to make a case to anyone, they can legally just arrest you and take you to Gitmo forever if they define whatever you're doing as being suspect of terrorism. I'm sure you've seen the Homeland Security memos circulating that define a lot of the behaviors of people on this site as domestic terrorists. Obama (with overwhelming bipartisan support) signed this into law and Romney agrees with it. This is NOT the vision our founding fathers had. They warned about a standing Army and using the military against the citizenry.

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Good. Smile

I like how the boo's turned to cheers and applause after they let him finish. I also agree with his further explanation of his views on the NDAA. I don't have to agree with Romney completely on everything to want him to be president. Not even Jesus Christ gets complete agreement by everybody. There is no perfect candidate; and if there were he would be less electable than Romney anyway.
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