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Kathleen Kane Lobs Criminal Charges at Shale Gas Driller
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She's on the warpath.


Andrew Maykuth, Inquirer Staff Writer POSTED: Thursday, September 12, 2013, 1:08 AM Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen Kane's decision to prosecute a major Marcellus Shale natural-gas driller for a 2010 wastewater spill has sent shock waves through the industry. But environmentalists Wednesday hailed the prosecution of the Exxon Mobil Corp. subsidiary as a departure from the soft treatment they say the industry has received from Pennsylvania regulators.

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20...vqPuvBT.99
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Anti-Capitalist, rather Communist POS.
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Let's look at some numbers here. 42 gallons in a "barrel" of water. Each of those tanks holds 500 barrels. A normal frac would consist of an average of 90 barrels a minute for 2 hours in each stage. A typical well can have 10-15 stages, sometimes upwards of 20 stages or more depending on the size of the horizontal portion of the well and the size of the zones. Most of the water pumped down hole is fresh water but can be mixed with up to 25% flow back to recycle it depending on pressure. A typical well can have 4.5 million gallons of water pumped into it. This site had two wells. There are 706 active wells in Lycoming county alone, and over 54,000 statewide.

Let's also note that XTO is a company based out of Pennsylvania and was not a part of Exxon at the time. It is reported that the tanks on the Marquardt site did not have a containment under the tanks unlike 99 percent of the other sites I've seen, and I've seen probably 30 percent of all the wells in this county. The failure to have a containment is a big no no in the industry here in this state unlike in Texas. I can assure with high confidence that XTO did not own the tanks at all and had no direct contact with them on a daily basis. This would have been contracted out to a company that handles water transfer like Red Oak, BBB or Key to name a few. The tanks could have been owned by either Key, Adler or GFS. The rear discharge is located in front of the rear axle by the ground about 6 feet in from the end of the tank underneath. It has a 3inch butterfly valve that is controlled by a long push bar that is attached to the valve handle. Most of the time they have caps on them and are rarely used. The absence of caps or evidence of faulty valves would have been the responsibility of the water transfer company to notify the company man of XTO so that the tank rental company could fix it or replace the tank. Someone might have dropped the ball here. From experience though these tanks will come on site with problems and because of multiple contractors working along side each other things can get overlooked pretty easily in certain situations. The trucks hauling the water do not check for these things before they dump water into a tank that they fill into from the front. They also are not aware of the results of opening and closing valves on sites sometimes. If these tanks were known to be faulty they should also have been locked out and tagged out. My guess is either they weren't properly isolated from other tanks if known to have issues and a manifold valve got opened to these tanks to equalize them or nobody walked around the back of the tank to check the rear valve like I always did. The lack of a containment didn't help things either.

Criminal misconduct? Not likely unless it can be proven that it was intentional which I highly doubt. More like negligence or accidental and I'm sure a few people probably lost their jobs over this because its a cut throat business where mistakes are not tolerated whatsoever. They satisfied the clean up requirements set forth by the DEP and paid their fines and I'm sure learned from their mistakes. Good luck AG Kane, if anything you are setting a dangerous precedent in this state that will ultimately only hurt job growth in this state.
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Anything to kill jobs, one can only hope that she is made to look the utter fool as this plays out in court.
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Mr_Gixxer thanks for the write up on that. I think a lot of people that haven't dealt with a construction site and with multiple contractors from multiple companies don't understand how easy it is for things like that to fall through the cracks. Not saying that it's right that it happens, but it's far from intentional that warrants criminal charges.
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streaker69;118399 Wrote:Not saying that it's right that it happens, but it's far from intentional that warrants criminal charges.

Look, if I'm fueling a boat and bungle the stupid CARB-Compliant gas can such that a half-cup of fuel dribbles out and makes its way to the scupper, and is sufficient to cause a sheen on the water, I can be criminally charged.
And likely will be if a Coastie happens by at that moment.

Why shouldn't companies who allow many thousands of times that pollution to escape get charged?

Otherwise, where is the deterrent?

An environment that's f'd up isn't good for "jobs" in the long run, either.

I grew up in Southern California at the tail end of the oil boom that brought my grandparents there. The leftover detritus of the oil companies is disgusting, from improperly capped wells to abandoned and rusting refineries, once run by the majors but at the end of their life sold to little subsidiary companies that went out of business and abandoned them to the Super Fund. So I know firsthand the sort of messes that oil companies leave behind after they take all of the money out of the ground.
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streaker69;118399 Wrote:Mr_Gixxer thanks for the write up on that. I think a lot of people that haven't dealt with a construction site and with multiple contractors from multiple companies don't understand how easy it is for things like that to fall through the cracks. Not saying that it's right that it happens, but it's far from intentional that warrants criminal charges.

Not a problem. I know there are lots of rumors out there stemming from anti's and NIMBY's alike who have never actually stepped foot on a well site let alone check their facts. Some of those types might consider me brainwashed or partial to the industry because of my experience working for a gas industry contractor but I assure I'm not. Also let's keep in mind that no matter what company it is whether it's XTO, Anadarko, PGE, Range, Citrus, Exxon, Shell etc, they would hate to have this publicity and would like nothing but to be as safe and clean as they possibly can be. Don't shit where you eat so to speak. Peoples jobs depend on people doing things right. Sure, accidents happen but I guarantee they are few and far between.

You're right about the construction site thing. I've seen dozens of contractors on an active site at any given time usually. When they aren't active there may be no one there at all especially a representative from from the company who leases the site.
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gascolator;118403 Wrote:
streaker69;118399 Wrote:Not saying that it's right that it happens, but it's far from intentional that warrants criminal charges.

Look, if I'm fueling a boat and bungle the stupid CARB-Compliant gas can such that a half-cup of fuel dribbles out and makes its way to the scupper, and is sufficient to cause a sheen on the water, I can be criminally charged.
And likely will be if a Coastie happens by at that moment.

Why shouldn't companies who allow many thousands of times that pollution to escape get charged?

Otherwise, where is the deterrent?

An environment that's f'd up isn't good for "jobs" in the long run, either.

I grew up in Southern California at the tail end of the oil boom that brought my grandparents there. The leftover detritus of the oil companies is disgusting, from improperly capped wells to abandoned and rusting refineries, once run by the majors but at the end of their life sold to little subsidiary companies that went out of business and abandoned them to the Super Fund. So I know firsthand the sort of messes that oil companies leave behind after they take all of the money out of the ground.

If you intentionally spilled that fuel than you open up a new set of charges. If it was accidental, you pay the fine and go on with life like they did.

As far as what will be left when its all said and done in the Marcellus and Utica shale here it's up in the air. We should all be concerned about this and I've seen first hand what the coal industry did to west Virginia when I spent time down there fracking an old coal mine property of 1,000+ acres for CNX. I can say that of the sites I've seen where the wells are in production or are depleted the sites are very clean and organized and with the advent of horizontal drilling they can cut the footprint of the well pad down to a fraction of the size that it used to require for vertical wells.
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IMO, to file criminal charges, they'd have to find the person that's directly responsible for the spill, just like you would be held responsible if you spilled gas into the water and a coastie were passing by. In this case, it appears there's no one that can be directly identified as being responsible. So are they going to file charges for every single worker, and contractor that was on the site, in hopes that someone rats out the person that's directly responsible? Nope, this is nothing but political grandstanding by a politician.

From what Gixxer said, it sounds as thought he companies that are responsible already cleaned up, paid the fines, so wouldn't criminal charges at this point be double jeopardy? Just because there's stupid laws on the books that make one a criminal for an accident, doesn't make it right.
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How many gas wells on farms have you seen with a rusted out holding tank?
I can show you oil wells with oil soaked soil in a radius around them.
I can show you abandoned oil equipment in the middle of the ANF.
I can show you vehicles people drive that leak fluids at a rapid rate which eventually end up in the storm sewer then into creeks.

This bitch needs to get on her broomstick and ffffffffffly off.
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