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Knife carry laws in PA?
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My computer wont let me use my search engines right now. (think I picked up a virus) so I cant do the research myself right now.

But it would be nice to see knife carry/possession/in vehicle laws for PA on here. Also what the (overall) or (Blade) length can be for the situation if there is a "situation" Like while hunting/fishing/or just plain storing in your truck/car or waling down the street.


P.S this will help me with what I know I can keep stored in my SHTF truck.

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Pa. has a mish-mash of knife laws on the books.Sad Unlike with firearms, each individual can pass their own laws regarding blade length, define what is considered an automatic knife (some say spring assist is automatic, others not) and even what would be considered carrying concealed.Angry It's a solid pain in the ass. To get around it I just carry a Spyderco Native, the blade is about 2 3/4 so there are no questions.
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billamj;25201 Wrote:Pa. has a mish-mash of knife laws on the books.Sad Unlike with firearms, each individual can pass their own laws regarding blade length, define what is considered an automatic knife (some say spring assist is automatic, others not) and even what would be considered carrying concealed.Angry It's a solid pain in the ass. To get around it I just carry a Spyderco Native, the blade is about 2 3/4 so there are no questions.

What he said^^^^^^^

There is no preemption like gun law, so any municipality can make their own rules.

It sucks.

What may be legal at your home could be illegal 5 minutes down the road.
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Yeah I would really like to keep fixed blades in my SHTF truck in my chest with the guns. Like my Ka-Bars and machetes, but I guess that is out of the question. I mean it is a locked chest I built and it will always be locked and they should never have a reason to legally search me or my truck. Sooo idk what I'm going to do.
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#5
Philly knife laws suck whole bags at one time. The rest of the state is a mismash as stated earlier in the thread.
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#6
Balisongs (butterfly knives) are legal, as per Commonwealth vs. Miles. Still, mu municipalities can restrict the carry of knives, regardless if they're considered prohibited offensive weapons or not. I carry a balisong every day.
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I carry a 3 1/2" S&W tension safety assist knife in my car most of the time. Philly that is a big no-no though for everything for the most part. From what I've read on the subject the police don't seem to care too much as long as you're not carrying a straight up push button or OTF switchblade they generally don't have a problem as long is the blade is shorter than palm width (this isn't written in the law specifically, but it sounds like that is what a lot of cops generally go on from what I've heard cops say). I think you have to use your best judgement there are places where some things might fly and others might not. Your safest bet for something carrying on your person at all times would be a 3" lock blade with nothing special. I think if you ever get nailed for a knife it would be because you did something stupid or an overzealous "OC can't be legal!" type of cop nails you because they've got nothing else to get you on. Even though I'm aware of the court case, I think a balisong is asking for trouble as most uninformed people associate it with the type of knife like a switchblade that magically jumps out of one's pocket and stabs innocent sheeple within arms reach whenever someone is in possession of one. I swear a lot of people feel like the simple act of gazing upon a balisong makes god drown a kitten or something. I own a nice balisong, but I never carry it on my person and it never leaves the safe. I know if you are caught with it there's a good chance a police officer that doesn't know the case precedent might get you, which you then might need to fight an in all likelihood win, but it just isn't worth the possible headache imo. I think assist knives are more legally defensible considering they are many widely available in the state though as far as the car is concerned I don't feel safe without a knife in the car easy to each and operate one handed with a serrated blade that I could use in the event of an accident that I may need to cut myself out of the seat-belt and smash the window of a flipped over car. If you do consider carrying an assist knife I would stay away from anything with a proper coiled spring as opposed to a tension rod. I would also stay away from anything that has any kind of button at all and finally I would look for something with a flip safety. I like the action S&W has engineered with their assist knives because it was specifically made to skirt laws in most states banning "automatic" knives with the safeties it has and the way the knife stores it's folded energy not using an actual spring.

Quote:18 Pa.C.S. § 908: Prohibited offensive weapons
(a) Offense defined.--A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if, except as authorized by law, he makes repairs, sells, or otherwise deals in, uses, or possesses any offensive weapon.

(b) Exceptions.--
(1) It is a defense under this section for the defendant to prove by a preponderance of evidence that he possessed or dealt with the weapon solely as a curio or in a dramatic performance, or that, with the exception of a bomb, grenade or incendiary device, he complied with the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. § 5801 et seq.), or that he possessed it briefly in consequence of having found it or taken it from an aggressor, or under circumstances similarly negativing any intent or likelihood that the weapon would be used unlawfully.

(2) This section does not apply to police forensic firearms experts or police forensic firearms laboratories. Also exempt from this section are forensic firearms experts or forensic firearms laboratories operating in the ordinary course of business and engaged in lawful operation who notify in writing, on an annual basis, the chief or head of any police force or police department of a city, and, elsewhere, the sheriff of a county in which they are located, of the possession, type and use of offensive weapons.

(3) This section shall not apply to any person who makes, repairs, sells or otherwise deals in, uses or possesses any firearm for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.
© Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:

"Firearm."
Any weapon which is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or the frame or receiver of any such weapon.

"Offensive weapons." Any bomb, grenade, machine gun, sawed-off shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches, firearm specially made or specially adapted for concealment or silent discharge, any blackjack, sandbag, metal knuckles, dagger, knife, razor or cutting instrument, the blade of which is exposed in an automatic way by switch, push-button, spring mechanism, or otherwise, any stun gun, stun baton, taser or other electronic or electric weapon or other implement for the infliction of serious bodily injury which serves no common lawful purpose.

(d) Exemptions.--The use and possession of blackjacks by the following persons in the course of their duties are exempt from this section:
(1) Police officers, as defined by and who meet the requirements of the act of June 18, 1974 (P.L. 359, No. 120), referred to as the Municipal Police Education and Training Law. [FN1]
(2) Police officers of first class cities who have successfully completed training which is substantially equivalent to the program under the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.
(3) Pennsylvania State Police officers.
(4) Sheriffs and deputy sheriffs of the various counties who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.
(5) Police officers employed by the Commonwealth who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.
(6) Deputy sheriffs with adequate training as determined by the Pennsylvania Commission on Crime and Delinquency.
(7) Liquor Control Board agents who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.

Delaware is also extra stupid with regards to knife / concealment stuff.
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#8
Well, I've already had a balisong taken from me (Scranton PD), and had to go to court to get it back, so that's one bridge I've already crossed. I also had a lengthy "discussion" with half of the Lackawanna County Sheriff's department about it, when I checked it in before a GAL conference. One bitch was convinced they were banned by federal law, though I think she just wanted to keep it for herself. No way I was letting go of a Benchmade that easily.

Eventually, they thanked me for the info, and let me go on my way, with my knife.
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jahwarrior72;26196 Wrote:Well, I've already had a balisong taken from me (Scranton PD), and had to go to court to get it back, so that's one bridge I've already crossed. I also had a lengthy "discussion" with half of the Lackawanna County Sheriff's department about it, when I checked it in before a GAL conference. One bitch was convinced they were banned by federal law, though I think she just wanted to keep it for herself. No way I was letting go of a Benchmade that easily.

Eventually, they thanked me for the info, and let me go on my way, with my knife.

I wouldn't let the PD walk off with one that easy either. Yeah I don't get it, because of TV and movies balisongs and switchblades have become the "assault rifles" of the knife world, even though it's just as easy if not easier to end someone with a fixed blade of equal length. Huh
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Emoticon;26313 Wrote:
jahwarrior72;26196 Wrote:Well, I've already had a balisong taken from me (Scranton PD), and had to go to court to get it back, so that's one bridge I've already crossed. I also had a lengthy "discussion" with half of the Lackawanna County Sheriff's department about it, when I checked it in before a GAL conference. One bitch was convinced they were banned by federal law, though I think she just wanted to keep it for herself. No way I was letting go of a Benchmade that easily.

Eventually, they thanked me for the info, and let me go on my way, with my knife.

I wouldn't let the PD walk off with one that easy either. Yeah I don't get it, because of TV and movies balisongs and switchblades have become the "assault rifles" of the knife world, even though it's just as easy if not easier to end someone with a fixed blade of equal length. Huh


It's all about image, like those black rifles with the shoulder things that go up or those black magic cop killer bullets.

Something mundane becomes inherently evil because of a narrow minded view of it.

Hollywood doesn't help either.
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