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Lautenberg wants to make it illegal to mfg magazines w/ 10+ rounds
#11
Whenever a fudd says no one needs an assualt weapon look at him and tell him that no one needs that sniper rifle you carry around either. No one needs to hunt, you can buy your food at the store or buy a farm and raise your own cows..
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#12
I guess a lot of people miss the point that when the time comes where you need to form a well regulated militia, it is past the moment when you can get those types of firearms, that you actually need to arm that militia. You remove those guns now, you remove the people's ability to form a militia in the future.


Jan
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MostlyHarmless;71374 Wrote:I guess a lot of people miss the point that when the time comes where you need to form a well regulated militia, it is past the moment when you can get those types of firearms, that you actually need to arm that militia. You remove those guns now, you remove the people's ability to form a militia.


Jan

Nope, I'm pretty sure that the far left understand that quite well. They're trying to insure that once they start their final usurpation of power no one will have the ability to readily resist.Angry
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billamj;71359 Wrote:
BobFromBucks;71347 Wrote:I just got done discussing this and the subject of AR's with a friend in WV. I was amazed at his closing (as in his mind is closed) point of view.

Here's my bottom line. I believe very strongly in the 2nd amendment and I'm licensed to carry. But if I need to protect myself with a military style weapon there's way more going on than a need to protect myself.

He thinks all AR's, AK's etc. need to banned along with anything over 10 rounds in a magazine. SIGH!

Sounds like a major league Fudd to me. I hate it when normally rational people go all Fudd.Shrug

I think you are correct although he claims otherwise. He just retired a year ago (he's my age) and I find that many of my peers are deathly afraid of standing up for anything these days that might affect their "golden years." "It's time to let the young people do the protesting. I did my time."

One of the problems I find with this line of thinking (and there are many problems with it) is that other than the young people I meet on forums like this, most of the twenty through thirty years old "young people" I see are totally uneducated and uninterested when it comes to our Constitution, Bill of Rights, or even American history. They are much more interested in watching stupid reality shows, living life vicariously through so-called stars who are famous only for being famous usually preceded by a "leaked" sex tape making pornography actors today's role models.

Those in that age range that are trying to create a life for themselves find that they are struggling to just find a job and too many end up living with their parents or in situations akin to college dorms.

Our education system (and the parents) failed these people terribly. From a personal standpoint, I have a 30 and 33 year old daughter and son. Both worked their way through school, both have excellent jobs, and my son recently started his own company and is doing exceptionally well with it. They both went to private schools through high school for my daughter and 9th grade for my son. It was a stretch paying for it but it made all the difference in the world. My son, by the way, who went to public high school for sports reasons, ended up having some issues and was much slower out of the gate. He totally changed during that 4 years and we had to be patient and hope that the values we had instilled earlier would kick in. Thankfully they did.

I've met a few "young people" from the forum and I'm impressed with their maturity and values. They don't have it any easier than their peers but they are out there working, trying hard, and they all have great respect for America and what we've stood for since our founding. They are a great bunch and give me hope for the future. I have 4 grand kids and one more on the way. We're playing for keeps right now and we cannot afford to let the social engineers gain one more inch in their dream to totally control you, me, and everyone we hold dear.

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billamj;71376 Wrote:
MostlyHarmless;71374 Wrote:I guess a lot of people miss the point that when the time comes where you need to form a well regulated militia, it is past the moment when you can get those types of firearms, that you actually need to arm that militia. You remove those guns now, you remove the people's ability to form a militia.


Jan

Nope, I'm pretty sure that the far left understand that quite well. They're trying to insure that once they start their final usurpation of power no one will have the ability to readily resist.Angry


Exactly. They truly and honestly believe that if THEY were 100% in control, that the world would be a wonderful place with no crime, poverty, racism, religion, or hate.

Because they're fucking morons.
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BobFromBucks;71383 Wrote:I think you are correct although he claims otherwise. He just retired a year ago (he's my age) and I find that many of my peers are deathly afraid of standing up for anything these days that might affect their "golden years." "It's time to let the young people do the protesting. I did my time."

What these aging baby boomers do not realize, while they were out there protesting for individualistic collectivism and denying personal responsibility in any and all forms, is that they helped in the creation of a generation that is more self centered and narcissistic than they ever were, and who has no use for old white men & women such as them and will have as much sympathy for involuntarily euthanasia of elderly in the name of environmentalism as they do in protecting the lives of the unborn they are taught are essentially resource draining parasites with as much value.
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Camper;71389 Wrote:
BobFromBucks;71383 Wrote:I think you are correct although he claims otherwise. He just retired a year ago (he's my age) and I find that many of my peers are deathly afraid of standing up for anything these days that might affect their "golden years." "It's time to let the young people do the protesting. I did my time."

What these aging baby boomers do not realize, while they were out there protesting for individualistic collectivism and denying personal responsibility in any and all forms, is that they helped in the creation of a generation that is more self centered and narcissistic than they ever were, and who has no use for old white men & women such as them and will have as much sympathy for involuntarily euthanasia of elderly in the name of environmentalism as they do in protecting the lives of the unborn they are taught are essentially resource draining parasites with as much value.

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spblademaker;71394 Wrote:
Camper;71389 Wrote:What these aging baby boomers do not realize, while they were out there protesting for individualistic collectivism and denying personal responsibility in any and all forms, is that they helped in the creation of a generation that is more self centered and narcissistic than they ever were, and who has no use for old white men & women such as them and will have as much sympathy for involuntarily euthanasia of elderly in the name of environmentalism as they do in protecting the lives of the unborn they are taught are essentially resource draining parasites with as much value.

Logan's Run

Damn! Are you 30 already?Huh
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billamj;71376 Wrote:
MostlyHarmless;71374 Wrote:I guess a lot of people miss the point that when the time comes where you need to form a well regulated militia, it is past the moment when you can get those types of firearms, that you actually need to arm that militia. You remove those guns now, you remove the people's ability to form a militia.


Jan

Nope, I'm pretty sure that the far left understand that quite well. They're trying to insure that once they start their final usurpation of power no one will have the ability to readily resist.Angry

Agreed, the extremist left understands that very well and that is actually their plan. With "a lot of people" I meant the self proclaimed "2A supporters", who can rationalize the need for AWBs and magazine limits. They are the ones who don't understand the militia clause.


Jan
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spblademaker;71394 Wrote:
Camper;71389 Wrote:What these aging baby boomers do not realize, while they were out there protesting for individualistic collectivism and denying personal responsibility in any and all forms, is that they helped in the creation of a generation that is more self centered and narcissistic than they ever were, and who has no use for old white men & women such as them and will have as much sympathy for involuntarily euthanasia of elderly in the name of environmentalism as they do in protecting the lives of the unborn they are taught are essentially resource draining parasites with as much value.

Logan's Run

Writers tend to see where things are going and give voice to it long before society does, which is why, IMHO, there was a slew of nihilistic stories with an ageist bent in the late 60s and the 70s.
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