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Legalized Theft of Guns
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Published on Monday, November 25, 2013
By Dean Weingarten

Arizona - -(Ammoland.com)- An anti-freedom policy has been spreading across United States police departments, the legalized theft of citizens guns.

Recently, it occurred in Georgia. I am not talking about forfeiture laws. They are related but have been covered elsewhere.

This is a problem in many urban areas, and it is spreading. The policy is to impound guns, in extreme cases, all guns that officers come across, whether involved in any crime or not, then to refuse to return the guns until a judge issues an order to return them. As the attorney fees needed to obtain a court order can easily be 10 times what the gun is worth, most people do not bother.

It is a form of legalized theft.

I first learned of this policy from students who were or who had lived in California. I had numerous students who had dealings with the LAPD. I started hearing stories about how guns were seized, even if there were no crime involved. If an officer came across a gun, it was seized, and it would not be returned until the LAPD received a court order demanding that it be returned. As hiring a lawyer to obtain a court order could easily cost thousands of dollars, very few people even tried. I also heard that some judges, who had a personal animus toward firearms ownership, simply refused to grant an order.

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Jon Doe;126801 Wrote:The policy is to impound guns, in extreme cases, all guns that officers come across, whether involved in any crime or not, then to refuse to return the guns until a judge issues an order to return them. As the attorney fees needed to obtain a court order can easily be 10 times what the gun is worth, most people do not bother.

I had this exact thing happen to me... I had an appt to get tires put on my truck years ago. My employer told me I couldn't have the morning off, so I was in a bind. A buddy of mine rode with me to work, then took my truck to the tire appt. But I forgot one important thing in the quick change of plans... I left my pistol under the armrest as my buddy pulled away. He didn't have a cell phone so I couldn't call him back. I called the garage and left a message for him to call me immediately when he arrived. He didn't arrive.

On the way he got stopped at one of those revenue generation checkpoints (click-it-or-ticket) and was corralled into a parking lot with a bunch of other drivers. When they finally made their way to him, he handed the officer his license and told him that the truck wasn't his. He reached in my glove box to get my registration and a pistol magazine fell out. The cop asked if there were any firearms in the vehicle. He said he didn't know because it wasn't his truck and that he was driving it to an appt.

The cop asked him to step out, he complied. Without asking for permission, the officer reached into my truck and started going through my shit. He flipped up the armrest and found my pistol. My buddy was told to lock the vehicle and relinquish the keys. He handcuffed my buddy and took him over to the police station. Once there, they charged him with unlawful possession of a firearm and some other trumped up bullshit. A few days later he got the charges dropped with the help of a military lawyer and never had any issue with it from then on.

I, on the other hand, was in for a ride. I was told the day of the incident I could come get my gun. So I drove into town, to the police station, and was refused after sitting there waiting for a half hour. I wasn't sure why they called me in to refuse me, but they said it was temporary. They did the exact same thing 2 more times... called me in, told me to bring my ID and that I needed to fill out some forms and I could be on my way WITH my gun. Never happened.

The 3rd time I was there, the police chief laughed in my face and told me that he was wondering how many times he could get me to come down there. I'm not 100% sure what was going on, but apparently he was getting bored with making an ass out of me, and 3 times was enough. He told me that if I wanted my gun I'd have to get a lawyer and beg the DA to have it released because it was evidence in a crime. Well, the gun cost me 50 bucks and the lawyer fee alone was at least triple that. So, I never got it back.

On the way out, he began laughing and said if I really wanted it back I could go to the office supply store and buy it once they had it turned into paper clips. I gave him 2 "you're number one" signals, called him a "fucking pig" and told him shove that gun up his ass and unload the mag. He called me a son-of-a-bitch and threatened to arrest me. I realized where this was heading, and I walked out. I was a hot head back then, but I wasn't dumb enough to let this trip to their holding cell continue. I learned a few valuable lessons that week. Keeping my gun in arms reach was the most important.
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One would think this behavior is a 5th amendment violation on the part of both the PD and the Courts for condoning such behavior.
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This is full of fail. You dont need to pay a lawyer. Do it yourself.
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streaker69;126813 Wrote:One would think this behavior is a 5th amendment violation on the part of both the PD and the Courts for condoning such behavior.

And 4th.

Suing the departments and judges for these violations should make up for the cost of a lawyer to get the items back. And hopefully set up precedent to get this bs to stop.
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