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IMO, the was not the encounter to take a stand on. To me, the way the cop approaches the situation makes a difference. I'd have given him my ltcf as well.

Justin
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JustinHEMI;149448 Wrote:IMO, the was not the encounter to take a stand on. To me, the way the cop approaches the situation makes a difference. I'd have given him my ltcf as well.

Justin

Maybe it's a standard thing that once approached they need to ask?

My brother is a prison guard in NJ and has his truck decked out with the hidden lights and all that since he did/does the swat team stuff. I asked him once if he ever hit the lights when the guy in front was being a douche or driving stupid and my brother (who is a practical joker) got pretty serious and said no way.

He said it opens up the whole can of beans, you start something you have to follow it all the way through, he would have to pull them over and deal with a potential situation if there was one...all that crap. He said if he hit the lights and kept going, and the guy was drunk or something and then did nothing then he could be responsible for not following through...if they're worth hitting the lights, they're worth pulling over and following through.

Maybe approaching an open carry is kind of the same thing? If he approaches to say hi and you gun up a school or robs the place and he didn't check to make you're on the up and up he could get in trouble.

Either way, it wasn't a bad counter and I would expect to be asked too, and likewise would comply and be cool about it.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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#13
To be honest I lost count of the actual numbers of encounters I've had with LEOs while open carry. Now that she no longer works there I'll say the Mrs used to regularly work the night shift at Sheetz. Being a regular night shift worker myself for the last 8 years I would frequently visit her store, and I loved to go between 02:00 and 03:00 when the worst drunks were most likely to show. We called it the comedy hour. The cops knew this too, and if they weren't swamped on the roads would try to hit up all the 24-hour stores to make sure they were OK, ans also to get their own lunch and coffee.

Time-wise it worked out for everyone.

As it happens, all my encounters except 2 have occurred inside a Sheetz where I was not observed at a vehicle. The other 2 not involving a Sheetz were also on foot, so I have never been asked to produce my LTCF based on that justification. Even so, all my encounters have been very positive. I have been engaged in casual conversation about shooting, hunting, pistols, holsters, local ranges, all manner of gun-owner things, all of which could have been avenues for sizing me up for public drinking, furtive behavior, etc, but they were sure smiling and enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the subject matter while they were doing it.

In every case I had no reason to believe they were not sincere.

Back on topic, I'm good with the OP's encounter. Ultimately, no encounter is the best encounter, but I'd also really like to see us all moving in the direction were law-abiding citizens and LEOs generally operate miles closer than we often seem to be today, and this feels like a move in that direction, on both sides, simultaneously.

"And it was SHORT! We loved it! Bahhahahahah" /Statler and Waldorf Big Grin
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

William Pitt
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Camper;149450 Wrote:Maybe it's a standard thing that once approached they need to ask?

My brother is a prison guard in NJ and has his truck decked out with the hidden lights and all that since he did/does the swat team stuff. I asked him once if he ever hit the lights when the guy in front was being a douche or driving stupid and my brother (who is a practical joker) got pretty serious and said no way.

He said it opens up the whole can of beans, you start something you have to follow it all the way through, he would have to pull them over and deal with a potential situation if there was one...all that crap. He said if he hit the lights and kept going, and the guy was drunk or something and then did nothing then he could be responsible for not following through...if they're worth hitting the lights, they're worth pulling over and following through.

~snip~

Your comment made me think of this for some reason ....



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soberbyker;149459 Wrote:Your comment made me think of this for some reason ....




Yeah, something along those lines is what made me ask him--may have been the same video Smile
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