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Lessons learned on OCing
#1
Been OCing for a short while now all over PA. Things I've learned:

On our demeanor and attitude:
-Be confident. This shows that you can handle yourself and you know -what you're doing.
-Be casual. This shows that this is a normal thing for you, even if it may be odd for others.
-Be yourself. Don't change yourself just to suit others.
-Don't be a douche. No brainer there.

On legal issues:
-Know your rights and the laws. This will keep you in the right, and keep you out of trouble
-Don't get into a vehicle without a LTCF. Part of knowing the laws.
-Don't OC during a state of emergency without a LTCF. Again, part of knowing the laws.
-Don't OC in Philly without a LTCF. Part of knowing the laws. Even the ones that sound ridiculous.

On interacting with the general public:
-Few people actually notice you're OCing.
-Of the few who notice, even less really care.
-Of the few who care, even less will say anything.
-Of the few who say anything, even less will say anything negative.
-Of the few who say anything negative, most are idiots.
-Most folks are just curious when they ask, and are don't mean anything negative.Most folks don't realize that OC is perfectly legal.
-Most folks can easily be swayed to supporting carrying with confidence, politeness, and sound logic.
-Your demeanor will generally determine how encounters go.

On interacting with LEOs:
-Be polite. This tends to set the mood for how LEOs interact with you.
-Be civil. This tends to keep interactions positive.
-Don't take bullshit. Being civil doesn't mean being a doormat.
-Know your rights and laws. This helps spot bullshit and improper procedures.
-Speak up if they're wrong. Again, don't take bullshit, and stand up for your rights.
-Don't get aggressive. It's never a good idea to start a fight, verbal or physical, with LEOs. Seriously.
-Your demeanor will greatly determine how encounters go.

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#2
Good advise, thanks for posting!
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#3
I usually try and ignore LEOs when they approach me. They're usually out to give me a hard time, anyway. If that doesn't work, and they give me shit, I'm pretty good at giving it back to them.
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(09-12-2012, 05:42 AM)jahwarrior72 Wrote: I usually try and ignore LEOs when they approach me. They're usually out to give me a hard time, anyway. If that doesn't work, and they give me shit, I'm pretty good at giving it back to them.


Really! I wouldn't have thought that about you.Big Grin
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#5
Seems like almost every time I've open carried people in Philly want to chat me up about it.
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#6
Of the few non LEO encounters I've had while OCing, three happened within the span of 5 minutes. One wasn't really negative but as I was getting out of the car, the lady next to me saw my pistol and told her husband they had to get out of there because I was going to rob the place.

The second was the guy working the cash register. He didn't seem to mind the fact that I had a gun on me. He was curious about the grip safety on my XDm.

The third happend during the second. A gentleman walking with the aid of a pair of crutches overheard us and asked if his being disabled would keep him from being able to get an LTCF. He seemed a bit embarassed asking but I went through the process with him and by the time I left the store, he seemed pretty upbeat about stopping at the sheriffs office the next day.

Usually when a cop sees me OCing, they just kind of nod and go back to what they were doing. The one time we had a cop come out late one evening because we had spotted a group of 5 or 6 guys in dark clothes sneaking around a business in the neighborhood.

When the cop got there he saw my pistol and seemed to relax a bit knowing that if he ran into trouble checking things out there was someone in the area who could lend a hand without having to wait for another officer to make it to the area.
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(09-12-2012, 05:42 AM)jahwarrior72 Wrote: I usually try and ignore LEOs when they approach me. They're usually out to give me a hard time, anyway. If that doesn't work, and they give me shit, I'm pretty good at giving it back to them.


They're curious about you being that you're banned from every single solitary site on teh interwebs.
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#8
(09-12-2012, 07:50 AM)Valorius Wrote: Seems like almost every time I've open carried people in Philly want to chat me up about it.



That has been my experience over here as well, out in the sticks as well as in the city of York.
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#9
(09-12-2012, 12:15 AM)ShaulWolf Wrote: On interacting with the general public:
[ul][li]Few people actually notice you're OCing.[/li][li]Of the few who notice, even less really care.[/li][li]Of the few who care, even less will say anything.[/li][li]Of the few who say anything, even less will say anything negative.[/li][li]Of the few who say anything negative, most are idiots.[/li]
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^^^ My favorite part!
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#10
True anti gunners are like true liberals, few, far in between and obnoxious, loud and think everyone agrees with them. Most people are just curious.
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