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(04-24-2015, 12:27 PM)mingomom Wrote: You can't judge all Guatemalans by the faction that controls the crime anymore than you can judge all Italians by those in the mafia. You can't judge all blacks by those who are in and out of jail.

And you can't say that ethnic groups are more likely to commit crimes when it's actually that they simply are more likely to be arrested, prosecuted, and get longer sentences than whites.

I have friends who adopted black kids as small children. Now as teenagers in a very conservative family, they get scrutinized when out, and their white siblings don't, even though all the teens are doing the same innocuous and normal behavior.

Timely article: http://www.torontolife.com/informer/feat...-im-black/

I don't argue for special privileges, just for recognizing that racism is a not-so-hidden factor that no one wants to admit. Especially on these forums. Yet the reality is that if Viper had been a black guy, dressed exactly the same way, with exactly the same demeanor and attitude, he wouldn't have been able to do what Viper did in Philly. Because black.

When I drive through a city, and see cars up on blocks, burned up so as not to leave fingerprints, a group of African American males standing on a corner, at mid day, with rolled up brown lunch bags they keep handing the contents thereof through car windows, in exchange for cash, I don't call it racism to assume any other male in close proximity, of the same race, is up to no good.

The same goes for a neighborhood full of Hispanics, in Cholo garb, and the one in the wife beater "T" says, "Hey, Heffey, you goss a problem?"

I don't think of all any one group in any one way, unless they all chose to congregate in one blown up area, acting a certain way.

Maybe I should have tried being a bit more friendly to the group of thugs in Balmer who wanted to know if I was "5-0"? Instead of jumping on the bus that they chased for several blocks, I should have asked them if I could join them in selling dope behind the brand new community pool house that was getting a fresh tag.
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#32
When you see someone acting shady, you use appropriate caution regardless of their skin color and respond accordingly. When you then make the assumption that everyone in that neighborhood is just as questionable, you're crossing the line.

Not everyone who lives in a bad neighborhood is a bad person.

DeadEye;164789 Wrote:
(04-24-2015, 12:27 PM)mingomom Wrote: You can't judge all Guatemalans by the faction that controls the crime anymore than you can judge all Italians by those in the mafia. You can't judge all blacks by those who are in and out of jail.

And you can't say that ethnic groups are more likely to commit crimes when it's actually that they simply are more likely to be arrested, prosecuted, and get longer sentences than whites.

I have friends who adopted black kids as small children. Now as teenagers in a very conservative family, they get scrutinized when out, and their white siblings don't, even though all the teens are doing the same innocuous and normal behavior.

Timely article: http://www.torontolife.com/informer/feat...-im-black/

I don't argue for special privileges, just for recognizing that racism is a not-so-hidden factor that no one wants to admit. Especially on these forums. Yet the reality is that if Viper had been a black guy, dressed exactly the same way, with exactly the same demeanor and attitude, he wouldn't have been able to do what Viper did in Philly. Because black.

When I drive through a city, and see cars up on blocks, burned up so as not to leave fingerprints, a group of African American males standing on a corner, at mid day, with rolled up brown lunch bags they keep handing the contents thereof through car windows, in exchange for cash, I don't call it racism to assume any other male in close proximity, of the same race, is up to no good.

The same goes for a neighborhood full of Hispanics, in Cholo garb, and the one in the wife beater "T" says, "Hey, Heffey, you goss a problem?"

I don't think of all any one group in any one way, unless they all chose to congregate in one blown up area, acting a certain way.

Maybe I should have tried being a bit more friendly to the group of thugs in Balmer who wanted to know if I was "5-0"? Instead of jumping on the bus that they chased for several blocks, I should have asked them if I could join them in selling dope behind the brand new community pool house that was getting a fresh tag.
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#33
Think of it this way, lets remove the "illegal" and latino components from the equation and see if you agree with this.

If I go to Cambodia like I have before and I notice that I tower over most Cambodian people in terms of height as an average American male and I remark on that observation by saying,"Wow, Cambodian people are short!", most people who aren't crazy hypersensitive moonbats would not consider that to be a racist statement because they know instinctively that I'm not talking about ALL Cambodian people, but making a general observation. They of course know there are still people in Cambodia who are freakishly tall and over 7 feet just like in the US. Exceptions to the rule. Now does that change the fact that the average height of a Cambodian man statistically is 5' 2" while the Average American male is 5' 10"? No. I can safely make the statement that Cambodian people are shorter as a statement of general fact without denigrating ALL Cambodian people! There is no racism there, it is merely an observation of fact!

Mingo, what you are basically trying to argue is basically any observation that is not positive of any minority community or group is inherently racist. Can you not see how dangerous of a precedent that is? How can you possibly hope to solve societal problems if you can't acknowledge that ALL RACES have positive attributes AND negative attributes. There should therefore be no issue with discussing either the positive or the negatives so long as it is based in fact if we ever hope to solve the problems which plague us such as black on black crime or the sheer number or latinos involved in the drug trade compared to other ethnicities and things of that nature.

Further, if you are walking alone in Philadelphia at 2AM and you run into this guy with "Kill Whitey" tattooed on his face you're not going to give him a wide berth because that would be "racist" as opposed to self preservation? If you're willing to walk up to that guy just like you would another white person, you are nuts and living in a fantasy land and that is the madness of liberalism.

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I wouldn't want to walk up to this guy either at 2AM, but that doesn't mean I'm racist against white people either, and you can be damn sure I'm going to judge a book by it's cover in this case. I just have common sense which liberalism is trying to extract from us.

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Emoticon;164791 Wrote:Think of it this way, lets remove the "illegal" and latino components from the equation and see if you agree with this.

If I go to Cambodia like I have before and I notice that I tower over most Cambodian people in terms of height as an average American male and I remark on that observation by saying,"Wow, Cambodian people are short!", most people who aren't crazy hypersensitive moonbats would not consider that to be a racist statement because they know instinctively that I'm not talking about ALL Cambodian people, but making a general observation. They of course know there are still people in Cambodia who are freakishly tall and over 7 feet just like in the US. Exceptions to the rule. Now does that change the fact that the average height of a Cambodian man statistically is 5' 2" while the Average American male is 5' 10"? No. I can safely make the statement that Cambodian people are shorter as a statement of general fact without denigrating ALL Cambodian people! There is no racism there, it is merely an observation of fact!

Mingo, what you are basically trying to argue is basically any observation that is not positive of any minority community or group is inherently racist. Can you not see how dangerous of a precedent that is? How can you possibly hope to solve societal problems if you can't acknowledge that ALL RACES have positive attributes AND negative attributes. There should therefore be no issue with discussing either the positive or the negatives so long as it is based in fact if we ever hope to solve the problems which plague us such as black on black crime or the sheer number or latinos involved in the drug trade compared to other ethnicities and things of that nature.
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No, I clearly stated that you judge an individual's behavior and not extrapolate it to the group. An observation of a group of people in front of you is not the same as seeing those same people doing something illegal and reacting as if all people in their country share that negative quality.

Emoticon;164791 Wrote:Think of it this way, lets remove the "illegal" and latino components from the equation and see if you agree with this.

If I go to Cambodia like I have before and I notice that I tower over most Cambodian people in terms of height as an average American male and I remark on that observation by saying,"Wow, Cambodian people are short!", most people who aren't crazy hypersensitive moonbats would not consider that to be a racist statement because they know instinctively that I'm not talking about ALL Cambodian people, but making a general observation. They of course know there are still people in Cambodia who are freakishly tall and over 7 feet just like in the US. Exceptions to the rule. Now does that change the fact that the average height of a Cambodian man statistically is 5' 2" while the Average American male is 5' 10"? No. I can safely make the statement that Cambodian people are shorter as a statement of general fact without denigrating ALL Cambodian people! There is no racism there, it is merely an observation of fact!

Mingo, what you are basically trying to argue is basically any observation that is not positive of any minority community or group is inherently racist. Can you not see how dangerous of a precedent that is? How can you possibly hope to solve societal problems if you can't acknowledge that ALL RACES have positive attributes AND negative attributes. There should therefore be no issue with discussing either the positive or the negatives so long as it is based in fact if we ever hope to solve the problems which plague us such as black on black crime or the sheer number or latinos involved in the drug trade compared to other ethnicities and things of that nature.

Further, if you are walking alone in Philadelphia at 2AM and you run into this guy with "Kill Whitey" tattooed on his face you're not going to give him a wide berth because that would be "racist" as opposed to self preservation? If you're willing to walk up to that guy just like you would another white person, you are nuts and living in a fantasy land and that is the madness of liberalism.

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I wouldn't want to walk up to this guy either at 2AM, but that doesn't mean I'm racist against white people either, and you can be damn sure I'm going to judge a book by it's cover in this case. I just have common sense which liberalism is trying to extract from us.

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(04-24-2015, 09:10 PM)mingomom Wrote: When you see someone acting shady, you use appropriate caution regardless of their skin color and respond accordingly. When you then make the assumption that everyone in that neighborhood is just as questionable, you're crossing the line.

Not everyone who lives in a bad neighborhood is a bad person.

DeadEye;164789 Wrote:When I drive through a city, and see cars up on blocks, burned up so as not to leave fingerprints, a group of African American males standing on a corner, at mid day, with rolled up brown lunch bags they keep handing the contents thereof through car windows, in exchange for cash, I don't call it racism to assume any other male in close proximity, of the same race, is up to no good.

The same goes for a neighborhood full of Hispanics, in Cholo garb, and the one in the wife beater "T" says, "Hey, Heffey, you goss a problem?"

I don't think of all any one group in any one way, unless they all chose to congregate in one blown up area, acting a certain way.

Maybe I should have tried being a bit more friendly to the group of thugs in Balmer who wanted to know if I was "5-0"? Instead of jumping on the bus that they chased for several blocks, I should have asked them if I could join them in selling dope behind the brand new community pool house that was getting a fresh tag.

That's my point, I didn't say everyone. The issue here, however, is that there are enough illegal aliens doing bad things here that give others a bad name. In that sort of environment, you don't have time, or can you afford, to take the time to parse each and every individual. It's why I avoid entire neighborhoods and sections of certain cities. When I drive through Southern Lancaster County, however, I don't avoid any road or area. People know how to behave themselves. Yes, there could still be that ONE bad apple there, but one doesn't start snapping the door lock, rolling up windows, and loosing the safety.
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mingomom;164794 Wrote:No, I clearly stated that you judge an individual's behavior and not extrapolate it to the group. An observation of a group of people in front of you is not the same as seeing those same people doing something illegal and reacting as if all people in their country share that negative quality.

There's that "ALL" word again that nobody has been using in that way except you. Remember what I just said about assuming things as truth that aren't actually true and making things up in the process? I implore you to find one example in this thread where anyone but you has attempted to apply any such racial an assertion to ALL of any group. Prove it. Show me.

Ah, now it's coming into focus though. I've encountered this kind of thinking before though that sacrifices one's own interests\self preservation in lieu for political correctness and see racism and discrimination everywhere. I have encountered it many many times with people who are raised in the suburbs and have never had to live in a crappy neighborhood or actually interact with the poor people they are so interested in the plight of. These people eventually go to college and have their heads filled with all kinds of notions about race and social justice by other people from the suburbs who have never actually worked with an illegal alien or dealt with a poor person from the ghetto on a daily basis while living in the same neighborhood either. Am I far off the mark? Be honest. By the way, working at a soup kitchen, public outreach, or participating in a canned good drive doesn't count towards the sort of personal contact I'm talking about because the person you meet at the food drive is not the person you'll meet 2 hours later selling whatever they got of value on the street because they have their EBT card anyway and throwing the rest in the trash because they just want the cash to buy drugs or booze with instead of feeding their kids.

The kind of person I normally encounter that seems to think like you do are the same kinds of people who move into newly gentrified trendy neighborhoods and can't figure out why they keep getting mugged and their car keeps getting broken into when all they want to do is be friends with anyone. After having a few brushes with people who don't like YOU because of your race as a white person no matter how badly you want to be friends with everyone Shrug Huh reality begins to set in and eventually even they end up developing a street smart shell after reality knocks some sense into them a few times and moving back the the suburbs seems like a much better idea.
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jahwarrior72;164620 Wrote:It's funny how this is only a thread subject because the guy was an illegal. It's also funny how rape culture is a Hispanic thing, according to all you cultural experts.


The child rape that definitely goes on a lot is when daddy's little angel goes down to Acapulco on Spring Break, gets plastered and is hanging around white Anglo fratboys who also flew down there on the cheap airfare to get totally tanked.

White people on vacation is the reason why Southern Mexico is totally not worth visiting. Unless it's someplace really remote like Mazatlán or Cabo that costs multiple times more than the airfare to get there.
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