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Local news article about open carry
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http://lancasteronline.com/news/local/pa...62c73.html

Quotes there from Prince and Stolfer as well as Shrill Goodman. Be ready to comment once the anti's start.
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Get the LTCF. I just took my wife to get hers. I think they ought to staple them to Birth Certificates
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#3
Getting pretty sick of the Rosa Parks comparison. And Kim Stolfer can suck a dick.
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jahwarrior72;162993 Wrote:Getting pretty sick of the Rosa Parks comparison. And Kim Stolfer can suck a dick.
I missed the "Rosa Parks" comparison and what did Stolfer say that was so bad? I not getting the anger here.
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#5
People are constantly making the Rosa Parks comparison to gun rights, Stolfer included. And he goes back and forth between being an doddering old fool, and an arrogant cunt. Being a spokesman for gun rights in PA doesn't give you license to be a fucking cunt, publicly smearing businesses and individuals who don't immediately jump to attention because he expects it.
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jahwarrior72;163002 Wrote:People are constantly making the Rosa Parks comparison to gun rights, Stolfer included. And he goes back and forth between being an doddering old fool, and an arrogant cunt. Being a spokesman for gun rights in PA doesn't give you license to be a fucking cunt, publicly smearing businesses and individuals who don't immediately jump to attention because he expects it.
I dont know the guy, and I really dont know much about him but I didnt see anything in that article that was arrogant so Im guessing you have read more about him or know him personally. I dont recall ever reading a comparison to gun rights a Mrs. Parks though. I guess I dont have enough info on what you know. I cant stick up for a guy I dont know much about but in that article he seemed OK.
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http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201503...rison.html

Quote:Gun-rights activist sparks ire with Rosa Parks comparison


Gun-rights groups are planning a peaceful show of force in Lower Merion on Sunday. But in promoting the event, they seem to have spawned a war of words.

The event invites gun owners from around the state to bring lawfully owned permitted weapons to Bala Cynwyd Park at 1 p.m. to protest a township ordinance that refers to gun-carrying in public parks.

The ordinance does not ban legal guns from parks, but rally organizers say it is vaguely written and should be repealed.

In an interview with a Main Line newspaper Wednesday, Kim Stolfer, a Pittsburgh man who founded Firearms Owners Against Crime, said the rally is about civil rights and would be "a Rosa Parks moment."

Gun-control activists, whose strategy had been to avoid and ignore the rally, called the comparison "offensive" and "appalling."

"He's comparing this issue with Rosa Parks? How disrespectful, not only to her and what she stood for, but to every black [person] out here," said Wynona Harper, a member of CeaseFirePA. "You can't take history and compare it to nonsense."

Parks, by refusing to give up her seat to a white man on a city bus in Montgomery, Ala., in 1955, became a symbol of the civil-rights movement.

Stolfer stood by his statement Thursday. "I don't care if they find it offensive or not. That woman stood up for her rights. That's where the comparison is," he said.

"It's different, because she was facing something significantly more threatening," said Eric Patroni, a leader, along with Stolfer, of Concerned Gun Owners of Pennsylvania. "But again, Rosa Parks was fighting for her civil rights, and we're fighting for human rights, the right of one's self-defense."

Each side accused the other of trumped-up rhetoric and argued that its position on guns is fundamentally about safety.

~SNIP~


Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201503...S0AzplX.99
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soberbyker;163016 Wrote:http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201503...rison.html

Quote:Gun-rights activist sparks ire with Rosa Parks comparison


Gun-rights groups are planning a peaceful show of force in Lower Merion on Sunday. But in promoting the event, they seem to have spawned a war of words.

The event invites gun owners from around the state to bring lawfully owned permitted weapons to Bala Cynwyd Park at 1 p.m. to protest a township ordinance that refers to gun-carrying in public parks.

The ordinance does not ban legal guns from parks, but rally organizers say it is vaguely written and should be repealed.

In an interview with a Main Line newspaper Wednesday, Kim Stolfer, a Pittsburgh man who founded Firearms Owners Against Crime, said the rally is about civil rights and would be "a Rosa Parks moment."

Gun-control activists, whose strategy had been to avoid and ignore the rally, called the comparison "offensive" and "appalling."

"He's comparing this issue with Rosa Parks? How disrespectful, not only to her and what she stood for, but to every black [person] out here," said Wynona Harper, a member of CeaseFirePA. "You can't take history and compare it to nonsense."

Parks, by refusing to give up her seat to a white man on a city bus in Montgomery, Ala., in 1955, became a symbol of the civil-rights movement.

Stolfer stood by his statement Thursday. "I don't care if they find it offensive or not. That woman stood up for her rights. That's where the comparison is," he said.

"It's different, because she was facing something significantly more threatening," said Eric Patroni, a leader, along with Stolfer, of Concerned Gun Owners of Pennsylvania. "But again, Rosa Parks was fighting for her civil rights, and we're fighting for human rights, the right of one's self-defense."

Each side accused the other of trumped-up rhetoric and argued that its position on guns is fundamentally about safety.

~SNIP~


Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201503...S0AzplX.99
Thank you for the article Sober. She is by far not the worst choice to compare 2A rights to although what she did was far more dangerous than the rally in the article. I guess if someone is an anti they might find it "offensive" but I dont see it that way. I think it gives her a lot of credit for what she did all though in a different way. It took more guts for here alone on a bus to do what she did than a group of people at a rally.
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I think the comparison to Rosa Parks is apt in a way. Consider how gun owners have been harassed by police, have had property illegally confiscated, are restricted by law and by some business owners from entering a place of public accommodation. If a park were to put up a sign "No Blacks" you can imagine the out roar that would be heard. Nary a peep when they prohibit gun owners.

Gun owners are looked upon by the likes of Shira Goodman as second class citizens, we're looked upon as un-intelligent and "weak" to quote someone that was at the rally on sunday. I don't see a single problem making a connection to Rosa Parks.
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Nope.

You can rationalize it any way you want. The comparison falls flat. Being denied service because you're carrying a gun is nothing like being denied service because of what you were born as. "No shirt, no shoes, no service," is a closer, more apt comparison. Denied service because you're armed? Well, that's a simple fix: leave your gun home. I can't stop being Nuyorican, no matter how long I stay out of the sun. This Rosa Parks bullshit is some shit gun owners cry about because of their overblown sense of persecution.

Stolfer himself has a lot of nerve invoking Parks, and racial discrimination, given the attitude of FOAC members I've personally witnessed and been subjected to. Behavior he's well aware of, and chosen to ignore among his people.
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