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Looks like Kane is Atty Gen.
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cgbudde;38500 Wrote:
soberbyker;38386 Wrote: Duty. That to me says she must attempt to create agreements not get rid of them.

But does she really have to make any new agreements. This might be the real problem. She might deciede that she will not agree to anymore new reciprocity's.

If you look at the definition of duty, I'd say yes.


Quote:du·ty [doo-tee, dyoo-]

noun, plural du·ties.

1. something that one is expected or required to do by moral or legal obligation.

2. the binding or obligatory force of something that is morally or legally right; moral or legal obligation.

3. an action or task required by a person's position or occupation; function: the duties of a clergyman.

4. the respectful and obedient conduct due a parent, superior, elder, etc.

5. an act or expression of respect.
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#12
Isn't it the AG that decides whether or not to charge someone in a SD shooting? Is it possible that more SD shooters will need to spend money in court than with another AG, because she's less likely to give them the benefit of the doubt?
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#13
Damn if we could just get maryland or delaware to agree to reciprocity with Pa, a Pa permit would be so much more useful. I hate having to disarm through Md/Del to get to all the states where my permit is good.

TheWolff;38523 Wrote:Isn't it the AG that decides whether or not to charge someone in a SD shooting? Is it possible that more SD shooters will need to spend money in court than with another AG, because she's less likely to give them the benefit of the doubt?

The state AG does not really get involved in such things. Here in Philly, the Philly Da is responsible for all that.
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#14
Frequent travels into Delaware is why I also carry a Utah permit. Delaware wants training, so unless/until PA adds training to the requirement to acquire a LTCF it won't happen. As for Maryland, not sure they accept any other state license outside of a few exceptions relating to work.

Valorius;38535 Wrote:Damn if we could just get maryland or delaware to agree to reciprocity with Pa, a Pa permit would be so much more useful. I hate having to disarm through Md/Del to get to all the states where my permit is good.

TheWolff;38523 Wrote:Isn't it the AG that decides whether or not to charge someone in a SD shooting? Is it possible that more SD shooters will need to spend money in court than with another AG, because she's less likely to give them the benefit of the doubt?

The state AG does not really get involved in such things. Here in Philly, the Philly Da is responsible for all that.
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Valorius;38535 Wrote:Damn if we could just get maryland or delaware to agree to reciprocity with Pa, a Pa permit would be so much more useful. I hate having to disarm through Md/Del to get to all the states where my permit is good.

TheWolff;38523 Wrote:Isn't it the AG that decides whether or not to charge someone in a SD shooting? Is it possible that more SD shooters will need to spend money in court than with another AG, because she's less likely to give them the benefit of the doubt?

The state AG does not really get involved in such things. Here in Philly, the Philly Da is responsible for all that.

That makes sense, thanks!
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#16
I'll be very interested to see what she does. She seems to have a lot of support in the law enforcement community. She did spend 12 years prosecuting sex abuse--a good basis to look at what PSU did not do, and Corbett's role.

"Observers and election returns suggest Kane’s focus on the Penn State scandal was a major factor in her becoming the first woman and Democrat to be elected Pennsylvania attorney general. She carried 15 counties that Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney won. Notably, she also won 15 of the 23 counties where Penn State has a campus presence." The Patriot-News.
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#17
I voted a straight Democratic ticket--- except for Kane. She's sort of like the sheriff for the overall state. So look at the vast differences between CC-friendly sheriffs and cc-hostile ones in fulfilling their "shall issue" obligations.

If she just doesn't task anyone in her office to pursue reciprocal agreements, they just won't happen. On the other hand, PA is its own worst enemy in this regard. We don't require training, and that's a big hurdle. I spent some time with Nevada CCW-holding relatives a couple of weeks ago, and more pro-2A folks you won't really find. They were astonished at our "two Wheaties box-tops and a background check" requirement here, and frankly had some misgivings. This is from a place where "going to the range" means driving a few miles out of town and setting up some targets in the desert and blasting away.

Then again, she must fulfill her duties under the law; if necessary, we can hope to prevail upon the legislature to change the law. Right now, as I read it, there seems to be no provision for her to abrogate any existing reciprocal agreement.
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gascolator;38735 Wrote:I voted a straight Democratic ticket--- except for Kane. She's sort of like the sheriff for the overall state. So look at the vast differences between CC-friendly sheriffs and cc-hostile ones in fulfilling their "shall issue" obligations.

If she just doesn't task anyone in her office to pursue reciprocal agreements, they just won't happen. On the other hand, PA is its own worst enemy in this regard. We don't require training, and that's a big hurdle. I spent some time with Nevada CCW-holding relatives a couple of weeks ago, and more pro-2A folks you won't really find. They were astonished at our "two Wheaties box-tops and a background check" requirement here, and frankly had some misgivings. This is from a place where "going to the range" means driving a few miles out of town and setting up some targets in the desert and blasting away.

Then again, she must fulfill her duties under the law; if necessary, we can hope to prevail upon the legislature to change the law. Right now, as I read it, there seems to be no provision for her to abrogate any existing reciprocal agreement.

Too bad your fellow liberals don't share your single issue view on firearms.
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#19
I believe that a great number of R's split their vote when it came
to Kane vs. Freed, look at the result. I also think that she promised
to investigate the AG's office under Corbett over the Sandusky/PSU.
My personal opinion is simple, Corbett put his political ambitions
ahead of his duty as Attorney General.
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gascolator;38735 Wrote:I voted a straight Democratic ticket--- except for Kane. She's sort of like the sheriff for the overall state. So look at the vast differences between CC-friendly sheriffs and cc-hostile ones in fulfilling their "shall issue" obligations.

If she just doesn't task anyone in her office to pursue reciprocal agreements, they just won't happen. On the other hand, PA is its own worst enemy in this regard. We don't require training, and that's a big hurdle. I spent some time with Nevada CCW-holding relatives a couple of weeks ago, and more pro-2A folks you won't really find. They were astonished at our "two Wheaties box-tops and a background check" requirement here, and frankly had some misgivings. This is from a place where "going to the range" means driving a few miles out of town and setting up some targets in the desert and blasting away.

Then again, she must fulfill her duties under the law; if necessary, we can hope to prevail upon the legislature to change the law. Right now, as I read it, there seems to be no provision for her to abrogate any existing reciprocal agreement.

I know many people who are more pro 2a. Shall not be infringed and all that.
You have a right to protect yourself and a duty to protect your family.
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