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M&P 22 vs. 22/45 vs. Buckmark as guest gun
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Recent events have compelled me to buy more .22's to take people to the range as first time or relatively new shooters to get more of them on our side. I nearly grabbed one two days ago on the spot but figured I'd take just a day or two more to really nail down the best choice between 22 pistols--I already have a .22 rifle for this use. I'm between the M&P22, the Buckmark Camper, and the 22/45 threaded. Does anyone here have some first hand observations with new shooters using any of these to tell which works well for them? This is a tool for a VERY important task which I cannot afford to fail at. They've gotta have fun, gotta be safe and effective, too. Any thoughts?
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#2
It's really hard to beat a buckmark, for both new shooters and experienced shooters.
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#3
I have a Ruger 22/45 that people seem to love to shoot. My S&W M&P-15/22 is an absolute blast to shoot, and looks totally badass. I cannot imagine any new shooter not enjoying a day of fun behind the sights of either.
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#4
There are three .22 LR Pistols that are excellent to learn the
fundamentals of pistol shooting. Browning Buckmark, Ruger Mark III,
M&P 22 LR., The Beretta Neos is also a good one.
Fundamentals, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#5
Fundamentals suggestion of the four stated are all great guns for what you want,but for ease of breakdown I am not a fan of the Ruger but I still own one,good luck
MARINE DIVISION TWO, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Jan 2013.
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I'll add the Ruger SR22 pistol to your list.

That said, with a Ruger Mk or 22/45 or Buckmark, it's considerably more difficult to get bit by the slide, an event which rather puts a damper on the day's fun. And it's considerably easier to shoot accurately. Same with the NEOS.

That said, I've started a few folks out on the SR22, and with emphasis on thumb-placement, they're quite safe. They may be marginally safer, having a single/double action trigger with a bit more weight to it than the semi-target pistols. The current generation of Buckmarks (at least my Hunter) have triggers that are light enough that it's pretty easy to make an unscheduled "bang."

We'd all love and M&P .22, but it's a bit of an investment for a guest-gun.

Between the Ruger Mks/22-45 and similar Buckmarks, I think the Buckmark is better looking and it is likely a bit easier to clean and maintain.

All that said, I try to start people out on a long gun... like my 10/22. It's just so much easier to learn and follow safety rules when it takes two hands to muzzle-sweep the entire firing line Smile
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gascolator;69821 Wrote:I'll add the Ruger SR22 pistol to your list.

That said, with a Ruger Mk or 22/45 or Buckmark, it's considerably more difficult to get bit by the slide, an event which rather puts a damper on the day's fun. And it's considerably easier to shoot accurately. Same with the NEOS.

That said, I've started a few folks out on the SR22, and with emphasis on thumb-placement, they're quite safe. They may be marginally safer, having a single/double action trigger with a bit more weight to it than the semi-target pistols. The current generation of Buckmarks (at least my Hunter) have triggers that are light enough that it's pretty easy to make an unscheduled "bang."

We'd all love and M&P .22, but it's a bit of an investment for a guest-gun.

Between the Ruger Mks/22-45 and similar Buckmarks, I think the Buckmark is better looking and it is likely a bit easier to clean and maintain.

All that said, I try to start people out on a long gun... like my 10/22. It's just so much easier to learn and follow safety rules when it takes two hands to muzzle-sweep the entire firing line Smile

It's also a lot easier to stop that person when they have a rifle swinging around every-which-way. There's a lot more to grab onto. Although I suggest yelling loudly "WHOA WHOA!" before grabbing onto anything. Give them a quick second to self-correct.

And if you're at an indoor range, the lanes are so tight that it's virtually impossible to muzzle sweep anyone with a rifle anyway.
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#8
I like the ruger mark series. the only time I had an issue with one was with the 22/45, but it was a range rental. if you get a ruger mark series, I definitely suggest the takedown bolt kit which makes cleaning much less of a chore. my personal 22lr pistol is the walther p22 and the only pro for it is that I can teach malfunction clearing on it woth live ammo consistently.
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panopticonisi;74056 Wrote:I like the ruger mark series. the only time I had an issue with one was with the 22/45, but it was a range rental. if you get a ruger mark series, I definitely suggest the takedown bolt kit which makes cleaning much less of a chore. my personal 22lr pistol is the walther p22 and the only pro for it is that I can teach malfunction clearing on it woth live ammo consistently.

Can you please tell us more about this "takedown bolt kit"? Huh
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LifeInPa;74159 Wrote:
panopticonisi;74056 Wrote:I like the ruger mark series. the only time I had an issue with one was with the 22/45, but it was a range rental. if you get a ruger mark series, I definitely suggest the takedown bolt kit which makes cleaning much less of a chore. my personal 22lr pistol is the walther p22 and the only pro for it is that I can teach malfunction clearing on it woth live ammo consistently.

Can you please tell us more about this "takedown bolt kit"? Huh

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http://www.eabco.com/store/ruger-mark-ii...stic-arms/
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